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close just did you find the more you 58 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:33,380 think you know much you really do 59 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:35,620 [Music] 60 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:42,750 we know the lying to us just don't know 61 00:02:55,710 --> 00:02:46,950 what to green where would we be without 62 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:03,440 [Music] 63 00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:06,330 all right higher side shadows we have 64 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:08,500 been dazzled by the stories and mystique 65 00:03:13,530 --> 00:03:11,160 of Tesla technology free energy devices 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:13,540 electrogravitic flying saucers and the 67 00:03:17,970 --> 00:03:15,610 mysterious ether for plenty of past 68 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:17,980 episodes we've heard of several exotic 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:19,930 technologies based on these themes and 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:22,090 their forward-thinking radical inventors 71 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:24,490 people like T Townsend brown viktor 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:27,040 schauberger and wilhelm reich all long 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:29,530 past dead and their explosive genius 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:32,170 largely reduced to a whisper and one has 75 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:33,970 to wonder if their technologies worked 76 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:35,200 where are they now 77 00:03:39,449 --> 00:03:37,840 if the ether is a real usable medium why 78 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:39,459 isn't it being used all these years 79 00:03:44,460 --> 00:03:41,440 later how can it still remain such a 80 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:44,470 secret well people it is out there you 81 00:03:47,699 --> 00:03:45,940 just need to know where to look of 82 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:47,709 course the scientific and technological 83 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:49,360 gatekeepers have been doing their 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:51,400 damnedest to corral the bright minds of 85 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:53,170 the scientifically inclined into the 86 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:55,750 limiting pen of conventional physics but 87 00:03:59,580 --> 00:03:57,519 you might not know that in modern times 88 00:04:01,229 --> 00:03:59,590 brighter minds have resisted those 89 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:01,239 scientific Sheppard's and have been 90 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:03,250 studying and teaching the forbidden 91 00:04:06,390 --> 00:04:04,930 knowledge of ether physics amongst 92 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:06,400 themselves and those who would listen 93 00:04:10,259 --> 00:04:08,560 all along and one of the most 94 00:04:12,030 --> 00:04:10,269 knowledgeable people immersed in the 95 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:12,040 secret science scene is today's guest 96 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:14,799 Erin Murakami erin has authored and 97 00:04:19,289 --> 00:04:17,200 produced several books presentations and 98 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:19,299 films like the quantum key the ultimate 99 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:21,400 guide to taboo physics free energy and 100 00:04:26,219 --> 00:04:23,410 debunking mainstream pseudoscience as 101 00:04:28,620 --> 00:04:26,229 well as hacking the ether a course in 102 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:28,630 mind power water fuel secrets and 103 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:31,030 several others in 2008 he also 104 00:04:35,490 --> 00:04:34,060 co-founded a & P electronic media which 105 00:04:37,770 --> 00:04:35,500 has helped to spread the word with over 106 00:04:39,210 --> 00:04:37,780 40 books and lectures and is largely 107 00:04:41,550 --> 00:04:39,220 considered the best source of 108 00:04:44,250 --> 00:04:41,560 information in the free energy sciences 109 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:44,260 but his most interesting credit in the 110 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:46,270 eyes of your humble host is that Erin is 111 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:48,850 the main man behind the energy Science 112 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:51,250 and Technology conference these annual 113 00:04:55,290 --> 00:04:52,960 conferences several years running are 114 00:04:57,090 --> 00:04:55,300 held in northern Idaho close to Spokane 115 00:04:59,370 --> 00:04:57,100 Washington and have been attended by 116 00:05:00,900 --> 00:04:59,380 people from all over the world today 117 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:00,910 there have been about nine machines 118 00:05:04,650 --> 00:05:02,890 demonstrated in his conference that were 119 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:04,660 over unity more than all other 120 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:06,910 conferences combined so this really is 121 00:05:09,149 --> 00:05:07,360 where 122 00:05:12,059 --> 00:05:09,159 rubber meets the road and I can't wait 123 00:05:14,159 --> 00:05:12,069 to get down to it a free energy advocate 124 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:14,169 Bucer of bizarro world science and 125 00:05:19,499 --> 00:05:16,150 teacher of the ether air and my man 126 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:19,509 welcome to THC hey thank you for having 127 00:05:23,339 --> 00:05:20,770 me on the show dregs much appreciate it 128 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:23,349 you got it this is a real treat I have 129 00:05:27,779 --> 00:05:25,210 been looking into these secret science 130 00:05:30,689 --> 00:05:27,789 conferences because I'm sort of sick of 131 00:05:32,730 --> 00:05:30,699 the vague mystical conversations around 132 00:05:34,649 --> 00:05:32,740 these topics and I wanted to just sort 133 00:05:36,659 --> 00:05:34,659 of dive in and see what's actually out 134 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:36,669 there and when you look into the free 135 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:38,800 energy conference scene it is not long 136 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:41,680 before you run into Aaron Murakami let 137 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:44,409 me tell you and I'm glad we can get to 138 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:46,750 some practical technologies and machines 139 00:05:50,999 --> 00:05:49,150 but first let's break down the 140 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:51,009 conventional paradigm you've called 141 00:05:55,890 --> 00:05:53,289 conventional physics bizarro world and 142 00:05:58,110 --> 00:05:55,900 mainstream science pseudoscience and I 143 00:06:00,059 --> 00:05:58,120 like that boldness but how do you start 144 00:06:01,950 --> 00:06:00,069 this conversation with people who don't 145 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:01,960 realize anything is wrong how do we make 146 00:06:08,219 --> 00:06:04,870 the case that mainstream science is so 147 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:08,229 backwards and inaccurate well back in 148 00:06:13,709 --> 00:06:11,710 2006 this is when my primary work was I 149 00:06:15,719 --> 00:06:13,719 owned a health food store and at that 150 00:06:17,550 --> 00:06:15,729 time I had already known Jon Bedini and 151 00:06:19,649 --> 00:06:17,560 Peter Lindemann and some of the other 152 00:06:21,779 --> 00:06:19,659 big names in the so-called free energy 153 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:21,789 world and when I put together the book 154 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:23,860 quantum key to me one of the most 155 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:26,110 important chapters in it was the chapter 156 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:29,080 on open versus closed systems because 157 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:31,210 it's really a concept that's so simple 158 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:34,000 that a child can understand it and once 159 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:35,740 the average person can understand that 160 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:39,460 it is possible to have a system produce 161 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:41,620 more on the output than what you put in 162 00:06:45,659 --> 00:06:44,020 and it's not more going out and going in 163 00:06:47,339 --> 00:06:45,669 it's more going out than what we put in 164 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:47,349 so common sense would say that that 165 00:06:51,269 --> 00:06:49,180 implies that there's extra input from 166 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:51,279 somewhere else and when the average 167 00:06:54,869 --> 00:06:53,500 person can relate that concept to things 168 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:54,879 that are all around them in their 169 00:06:58,559 --> 00:06:56,860 everyday life then it becomes a 170 00:07:01,469 --> 00:06:58,569 possibility and then we can kind of 171 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:01,479 build from there right I really do like 172 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:04,270 that open systems versus closed systems 173 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:06,699 thing because that has been really a big 174 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:08,710 component of guys like viktor 175 00:07:12,779 --> 00:07:10,479 schauberger he talked about that a lot 176 00:07:15,629 --> 00:07:12,789 that nature is a big open system and 177 00:07:17,579 --> 00:07:15,639 things influence each other and I mean 178 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:17,589 the human body everything it's kind of 179 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:19,360 an open system because you can think of 180 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:21,370 the human body as like one contained 181 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:24,430 vein in a meat suit but then you know if 182 00:07:28,860 --> 00:07:26,050 you're breathing air that's outside 183 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:28,870 stimuli if you put yourself in a cold 184 00:07:33,269 --> 00:07:30,669 environment your inner heart rate is 185 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:33,279 going to raise so really everything is 186 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:35,529 kind of connected and that's kind of the 187 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:37,300 point behind this open systems point 188 00:07:41,659 --> 00:07:38,520 right 189 00:07:43,820 --> 00:07:41,669 yeah absolutely and when really looking 190 00:07:45,950 --> 00:07:43,830 at it for what it is one can really only 191 00:07:48,020 --> 00:07:45,960 come to a conclusion that there are only 192 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:48,030 open systems and that the full concept 193 00:07:52,969 --> 00:07:51,240 of closed systems that's shut off - you 194 00:07:55,219 --> 00:07:52,979 know everything else around it just 195 00:07:57,279 --> 00:07:55,229 really doesn't exist fair enough and so 196 00:08:00,260 --> 00:07:57,289 the ether itself I mean this is a 197 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:00,270 provocative term that gets people 198 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:02,370 thinking all kinds of crazy stuff and it 199 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:04,440 does seem to be one of the main missing 200 00:08:08,870 --> 00:08:06,599 puzzle pieces that snaps the whole thing 201 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:08,880 into view how do you define it and 202 00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:11,970 describe it for people well the ether is 203 00:08:16,939 --> 00:08:14,520 the fundamental stuff which pretty much 204 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:16,949 everything is made of not only tangible 205 00:08:22,159 --> 00:08:19,590 items but space in and of itself is the 206 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:22,169 ether it's not space is filled with 207 00:08:27,980 --> 00:08:25,080 ether but wherever the ether is that is 208 00:08:29,689 --> 00:08:27,990 what space is and you know if you look 209 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:29,699 in this field long enough or pretty much 210 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:31,259 any branch of physics that goes down 211 00:08:35,870 --> 00:08:33,570 into the fundamentals the ether is 212 00:08:38,089 --> 00:08:35,880 denied pulled apart idli 213 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:38,099 by you know all the so-called experts 214 00:08:42,290 --> 00:08:40,919 and one thing that you know everybody 215 00:08:44,029 --> 00:08:42,300 who thinks that they're an expert in 216 00:08:46,579 --> 00:08:44,039 physics is going to point out that oh 217 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:46,589 well Nicholson Morley their experiment 218 00:08:50,949 --> 00:08:49,110 back in late 1800s with their 219 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:50,959 interferometer experiment which is 220 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:53,490 bouncing different light beams around 221 00:08:57,139 --> 00:08:55,620 and seeing whether they get to a 222 00:08:59,569 --> 00:08:57,149 destination at the same time or if 223 00:09:02,449 --> 00:08:59,579 there's a little time delay and what 224 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:02,459 they were doing was trying to see if the 225 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:05,730 idea of an ether wind existed or not and 226 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:08,730 their experiment failed to show that 227 00:09:13,610 --> 00:09:11,130 well they weren't really setting out to 228 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:13,620 debunk the ether because if you listen 229 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:15,000 to a lot of the so-called experts today 230 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:16,260 they're gonna say oh well Nicholson 231 00:09:19,850 --> 00:09:18,000 Morley debunked ether they found that 232 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:19,860 there was no ether and that's absolutely 233 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:21,480 not even close to being true 234 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:23,730 they only failed to find evidence in 235 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:26,640 favor of the ether wind model but what's 236 00:09:30,079 --> 00:09:28,380 usually left out of the conversation is 237 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:30,089 one of the biggest players in history in 238 00:09:34,220 --> 00:09:32,040 that science who has somebody named 239 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:34,230 Dayton Miller and Dayton Miller is 240 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:35,700 somebody who is fine was in 241 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:37,260 correspondence with and Dayton Miller 242 00:09:41,569 --> 00:09:39,240 was personally working with Nicholson 243 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:41,579 himself and was very well known during 244 00:09:46,269 --> 00:09:43,800 that time and it was Dave Miller who 245 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:46,279 actually did find a positive result and 246 00:09:51,199 --> 00:09:48,930 his experiments basically pointed out 247 00:09:52,220 --> 00:09:51,209 that there is in fact an either but 248 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:52,230 that's pretty much been 249 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:53,910 out of the textbooks you know I have 250 00:09:57,860 --> 00:09:55,920 different friends who have multiple 251 00:09:59,870 --> 00:09:57,870 degrees quite a few of them have degrees 252 00:10:02,330 --> 00:09:59,880 in physics and not one single one I've 253 00:10:04,850 --> 00:10:02,340 ever heard the name update Miller in all 254 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:04,860 their years at the universities mm-hmm 255 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:06,840 isn't that curious they teach Einstein 256 00:10:11,180 --> 00:10:09,450 but not date and Miller and Mickelson 257 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:11,190 Morley is an interesting thing for 258 00:10:16,190 --> 00:10:13,710 people who aren't super familiar they 259 00:10:18,890 --> 00:10:16,200 took two light beams and bounced them 260 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:18,900 into all four directions thinking that 261 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:20,550 once they hit the end point they would 262 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:23,100 be off because one of them would have 263 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:25,620 been within the currents of the ether 264 00:10:29,510 --> 00:10:28,050 like this like you say ether wind you 265 00:10:32,660 --> 00:10:29,520 know they thought it was a current that 266 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:32,670 flowed in one direction and that seems 267 00:10:38,030 --> 00:10:34,860 to be inaccurate but you are right that 268 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:38,040 not detecting something is absolutely 269 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:40,740 not the same as debunking it fully they 270 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:42,390 just failed to detect it because they 271 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:45,300 expected it to be measurable in a way 272 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:47,310 that it's actually not measurable is 273 00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:49,980 that basically the summary it is 274 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:51,750 yeah and that's absolutely correct that 275 00:10:55,310 --> 00:10:53,850 just because you can't find evidence for 276 00:10:57,260 --> 00:10:55,320 something does not mean that you're 277 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:57,270 automatically debunking it but when you 278 00:11:00,350 --> 00:10:59,130 look at this entire so-called free 279 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:00,360 energy field and you look at a lot of 280 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:02,730 these people who are passing themselves 281 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:06,000 off as being skeptics and who are only 282 00:11:10,430 --> 00:11:08,610 their quote so-called to help and I've 283 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:10,440 seen plenty of those people over the 284 00:11:14,750 --> 00:11:12,600 years at both of my forums mostly 285 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:14,760 energetic form comm where people will 286 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:16,470 come in there and they're like well we 287 00:11:19,370 --> 00:11:17,790 just want to help you understand what 288 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:19,380 you're looking at but when you look at 289 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:20,850 their attitude and their mindset in the 290 00:11:25,490 --> 00:11:23,850 mentality what they take is if there's 291 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:25,500 not evidence of something then it must 292 00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:28,260 be false and it can't exist and that's 293 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:30,360 just completely unscientific but they're 294 00:11:33,470 --> 00:11:31,770 the ones who are portraying themselves 295 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:33,480 as being the most scientific so it's 296 00:11:38,450 --> 00:11:36,390 completely hypocritical so looking at 297 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:38,460 what Nicholson Morley did just as you 298 00:11:43,250 --> 00:11:39,960 described bouncing these light beams 299 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:43,260 around and this ether wind what they 300 00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:45,690 were looking for was whether or not 301 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:48,000 there was a static type of ether that 302 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:50,850 just kind of sat there statically as the 303 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:53,130 earth is spinning in it and if the ether 304 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:55,110 is still but the earth is spinning then 305 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:57,210 you create an apparent ether wind 306 00:12:02,120 --> 00:11:59,760 relative to the earth moving through it 307 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:02,130 just like if a child is trying to fly a 308 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:04,260 kite out and field and if there's no 309 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:06,030 wind well he can create his own win 310 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:08,610 by running so that's creating an 311 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:10,740 apparent wind relative to the movement 312 00:12:16,010 --> 00:12:13,170 of the kite and that's what Nicholson 313 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:16,020 Morley failed to find evidence of but 314 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:17,880 that's not the only either model there's 315 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:20,910 more dynamic type of ether where the 316 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:23,100 ether is actually in movement itself 317 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:24,600 even though the earth is spinning 318 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:26,520 through it it's not a static ether and 319 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:28,410 these are kind of going into some of the 320 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:30,420 concepts that have been validated by 321 00:12:34,220 --> 00:12:32,370 many many experiments over the last 322 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:34,230 century but they don't get any 323 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:37,440 recognition right and that was going to 324 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:38,910 be my next question for you is basically 325 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:43,200 if their experiment was an incorrect way 326 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:45,420 to detect the ether what is the right 327 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:47,730 way we can actually detect it or the 328 00:12:53,060 --> 00:12:49,740 right way to think about it versus the 329 00:12:54,740 --> 00:12:53,070 way they had it in their model well they 330 00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:54,750 want to deny the ether but when looking 331 00:12:57,070 --> 00:12:56,100 at it it basically ties everything 332 00:12:59,300 --> 00:12:57,080 together 333 00:13:01,880 --> 00:12:59,310 Einstein's original model was like an 334 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:01,890 elastic if they're a type model and 335 00:13:05,630 --> 00:13:03,930 little by little you can see through his 336 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:05,640 correspondence over the years and he was 337 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:08,430 he didn't really deny the ether very 338 00:13:13,579 --> 00:13:11,700 much a lot of people portray Einstein as 339 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:13,589 being the big D bunker of the ether 340 00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:14,970 because of his theories of relativity 341 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:18,390 and that's not true what he was really 342 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:20,130 saying was that the ether was not 343 00:13:24,530 --> 00:13:22,110 necessary for his theory of relativity 344 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:24,540 to hold up which is a big difference 345 00:13:28,970 --> 00:13:26,520 from saying that there is no ether he's 346 00:13:31,970 --> 00:13:28,980 just saying it wasn't necessary for the 347 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:31,980 ether to be there to have the effects of 348 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:35,370 relativity but when looking at it for 349 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:37,260 what it is and when we start looking 350 00:13:42,110 --> 00:13:39,480 into gravity and potential and the 351 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:42,120 nature of energy in and of itself we can 352 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:45,690 see that the whole foundation of physics 353 00:13:50,690 --> 00:13:48,330 is completely false and I know that's a 354 00:13:53,270 --> 00:13:50,700 bold claim but when looking at a couple 355 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:53,280 simple examples we can see that there 356 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:55,770 has to be an ether or something because 357 00:14:00,410 --> 00:13:57,930 the entire concept of storing potential 358 00:14:03,020 --> 00:14:00,420 or conservation of momentum conservation 359 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:03,030 of energy and these type of ideas just 360 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:06,120 don't hold up my favorite examples is 361 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:08,240 just looking at gravitational potential 362 00:14:12,950 --> 00:14:10,260 everybody knows that if you lift an 363 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,960 object that takes real work to lift an 364 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:15,600 object you know if you lift a 1 kilogram 365 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:19,410 object to 1 meter that's maybe one Joule 366 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:19,950 of 367 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:22,050 that's dissipated it's not just 368 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:23,490 potential it's actually energy that's 369 00:14:27,470 --> 00:14:25,650 burned you know if a bulldozer is 370 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:27,480 lifting up a bunch of dirt up into the 371 00:14:33,470 --> 00:14:29,610 air obviously it takes work to do that 372 00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:33,480 well what the common idea is is that as 373 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:35,520 you're lifting that object you're 374 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:37,890 storing potential in the gravitational 375 00:14:42,770 --> 00:14:40,920 field well just looking at it from a 376 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:42,780 more mechanical point of view or a 377 00:14:47,270 --> 00:14:45,630 mechanically inclined point of view well 378 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:47,280 how can you store something that you 379 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:49,740 just used up you know when a bulldozer 380 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:52,740 is using gasoline to lift a bunch of 381 00:14:58,670 --> 00:14:55,350 dirt up into the air you're not storing 382 00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:58,680 gasoline potential in the gravitational 383 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:00,000 field you just used it up because you 384 00:15:03,650 --> 00:15:01,410 have less gasoline than you started with 385 00:15:05,420 --> 00:15:03,660 and people are going to say well when 386 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:05,430 that dirt is dropped down onto the 387 00:15:09,530 --> 00:15:07,500 ground or you lift an object up into the 388 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:09,540 air and you drop it you're getting out 389 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:12,270 what you put into it but those concepts 390 00:15:16,970 --> 00:15:13,980 are completely false I mean if you look 391 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:16,980 at it takes energy to lift an object 392 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,380 that means what you got out of it is the 393 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:21,600 lift in and of itself if you expended X 394 00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:23,220 amount of joules to lift an object up 395 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:25,590 into the air which you got out of it was 396 00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:26,940 the lift of that object 397 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,790 now when you drop that object and it's 398 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:32,160 released what's interesting is that the 399 00:15:37,580 --> 00:15:34,860 common mindset is well you get the same 400 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,590 amount of work out of it on impact when 401 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:39,600 the object hits the ground you're 402 00:15:44,090 --> 00:15:41,160 releasing what you put into it 403 00:15:46,850 --> 00:15:44,100 and so if people are brainwashed into 404 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:46,860 thinking that you're storing the 405 00:15:52,190 --> 00:15:49,350 potential in the object up into that 406 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:52,200 gravitational field and that's what 407 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:54,270 you're getting out of it then there's no 408 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:55,590 need for the ether because they're 409 00:16:00,740 --> 00:15:57,690 making it intrinsic to the object itself 410 00:16:02,630 --> 00:16:00,750 as the storage for that potential but 411 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:02,640 you can't store potential that you just 412 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:05,010 used up so if you used one jewel to lift 413 00:16:08,690 --> 00:16:07,050 an object into the air that one jewel is 414 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:08,700 completely dissipated there's nothing 415 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:11,970 else left but when you drop that object 416 00:16:16,270 --> 00:16:14,370 yes there's an equivalent to one Joule 417 00:16:18,830 --> 00:16:16,280 of work that's going to be done in heat 418 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:18,840 deformation of the object on impact and 419 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:20,610 so forth heat is created so that's real 420 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:23,070 work that's equal to the work that it 421 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:25,710 took to lift it well where did that come 422 00:16:29,450 --> 00:16:27,180 from and it shows that there is a 423 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:29,460 gravitational potential which has to be 424 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:32,130 coming external from the object because 425 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:33,950 if you just look at the math 426 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,890 force times distance is the Newtonian 427 00:16:42,130 --> 00:16:38,720 equation of how much work it took to 428 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:42,140 lift an object and MGH is mass times 429 00:16:46,510 --> 00:16:44,570 gravity times height says well that 430 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:46,520 object at that certain height has the 431 00:16:52,990 --> 00:16:49,610 exact same potential as work used to 432 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:53,000 lift it well it took work to lift it and 433 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:54,530 there's work coming out of it which 434 00:16:58,930 --> 00:16:57,050 means one plus one equals two one plus 1 435 00:17:00,520 --> 00:16:58,940 does not equal one and that's what they 436 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:00,530 want you to believe people don't see it 437 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,050 that way but that's in effect what the 438 00:17:06,819 --> 00:17:05,600 basic third grade mathematics and 439 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:06,829 seventh grade equations are going to 440 00:17:11,470 --> 00:17:09,680 show is that if you took one Joule to 441 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:11,480 lift the object when it drops and hits 442 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:12,890 the ground you get a Joule out of it 443 00:17:17,199 --> 00:17:15,470 which means a total of 2 joules of work 444 00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:17,209 were demonstrated but you only put in 445 00:17:22,329 --> 00:17:20,030 one well if you put in 1 and you have a 446 00:17:25,150 --> 00:17:22,339 calculated amount of work that was done 447 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:25,160 that's double that that means extra had 448 00:17:28,990 --> 00:17:27,290 to come from somewhere which is from the 449 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:29,000 gravitational field which means it's 450 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:30,560 coming from the ether or whatever 451 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:33,050 external medium you want to call it so 452 00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:35,660 in the Einsteinian world all of that is 453 00:17:39,310 --> 00:17:37,220 stored in the gravitational field 454 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:39,320 whereas when you look at it for what it 455 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:41,570 is it has to be coming from external 456 00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:43,130 from ourselves which means there is a 457 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:45,830 medium that is contributing to pushing 458 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:47,750 on that object and that's where the real 459 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:50,210 source of potential is is the ether and 460 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:52,250 not this fictitious idea that you're 461 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:54,770 storing potential in the gravitational 462 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:56,570 field I mean you know if you drive a car 463 00:18:00,490 --> 00:17:58,850 up a hill and you have 1 gallon of gas 464 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:00,500 and you drive and drive and drive and 465 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:02,300 you make it to the top of Pikes Peak in 466 00:18:06,340 --> 00:18:04,520 Colorado or whatever other high mountain 467 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:06,350 that you're climbing up to when you get 468 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:07,400 to the top of the mountain there's no 469 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,860 more gasoline in the car right you used 470 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:11,600 up the gas you didn't store gasoline 471 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:13,490 potential anywhere and so you'd have a 472 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:15,380 real measurable amount of work that took 473 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:17,330 to get up the hill and when you turn the 474 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:19,190 car around and you let off the emergency 475 00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:20,480 brake and you coast to neutral all the 476 00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:23,380 way back down well you're obviously not 477 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:25,430 rolling that car down the hill from 478 00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:26,840 gasoline potential that you stored 479 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:28,670 because you already used it up so where 480 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:29,390 is it coming from 481 00:18:33,340 --> 00:18:31,100 it's obviously not stored somewhere 482 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:33,350 because you just used it up which means 483 00:18:36,610 --> 00:18:35,210 you are getting extra potential from 484 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:36,620 somewhere else that's able to do real 485 00:18:40,210 --> 00:18:38,960 work and this is what is been in front 486 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:40,220 of everybody's face for you know 487 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:43,610 hundreds of years and you know it's not 488 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:45,170 that these Newtonian equations are 489 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:47,090 incorrect they're incorrectly being 490 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:47,870 applied 491 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,510 right you know force times distance and 492 00:18:53,710 --> 00:18:52,400 mass times gravity times height to 493 00:18:55,539 --> 00:18:53,720 determine what the gravitational 494 00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:55,549 potential is those equations are 495 00:18:59,799 --> 00:18:57,380 accurately giving what the numbers are 496 00:19:02,860 --> 00:18:59,809 but the perspective has to change and so 497 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:02,870 if you see that you are indeed getting 498 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:04,370 an equal amount and you add those 499 00:19:09,789 --> 00:19:06,770 together the total amount of work is 500 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:09,799 obviously common sense shows you and any 501 00:19:14,049 --> 00:19:12,230 child can see it that more work is being 502 00:19:16,299 --> 00:19:14,059 done and what you put in and it's coming 503 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:16,309 from external so there is an ether and 504 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:17,330 when looking at it from that perspective 505 00:19:22,510 --> 00:19:19,400 the entire Einstein yin model falls 506 00:19:24,639 --> 00:19:22,520 apart as does the bearer foundation of 507 00:19:26,919 --> 00:19:24,649 fundamental physics where they're 508 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:26,929 inaccurately claiming that you can 509 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:28,490 actually store potential when nothing 510 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:29,630 can be further from the truth 511 00:19:35,230 --> 00:19:32,750 right so in other words just to make 512 00:19:37,139 --> 00:19:35,240 sure I got this instead of and the 513 00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:37,149 examples you're giving instead of 514 00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:39,919 thinking of these things as like an 515 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:42,350 action and reaction part of one process 516 00:19:47,169 --> 00:19:44,830 is two separate processes one that 517 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:47,179 disrupts the equilibrium kind of moving 518 00:19:52,019 --> 00:19:49,370 something off the ground and then a 519 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:52,029 second process that brings it back to 520 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:55,130 the equilibrium before you put in the 521 00:19:59,549 --> 00:19:57,770 work absolutely they're sequential so 522 00:20:02,409 --> 00:19:59,559 the first step is you lift an object 523 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:02,419 real work is being done heat is being 524 00:20:08,649 --> 00:20:05,750 created and that's a definable calculate 525 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:08,659 a bold amount of work and then if then 526 00:20:13,060 --> 00:20:10,220 when that object is allowed to released 527 00:20:15,460 --> 00:20:13,070 then gravity comes in pushes on the 528 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:15,470 object which is external potential from 529 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:16,730 yourself because you're not contributing 530 00:20:19,269 --> 00:20:17,630 anything anymore 531 00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:19,279 so obviously it's coming from the 532 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:21,620 environment and then that second step is 533 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:24,049 that fresh gravitational potential comes 534 00:20:28,090 --> 00:20:26,870 in and extra work is being done and you 535 00:20:30,190 --> 00:20:28,100 can add them together and it's more than 536 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:30,200 what you put into it and so it's not 537 00:20:33,549 --> 00:20:31,700 more out than going in it's more out 538 00:20:35,710 --> 00:20:33,559 than what we put in so they are 539 00:20:36,940 --> 00:20:35,720 sequential absolutely and that's a very 540 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:36,950 important point to understand 541 00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:39,770 distinction right on right on and so 542 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:41,870 some of this stuff is a little bit hard 543 00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:44,330 to grasp without a visual aid but the 544 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:46,220 most helpful for me when trying to 545 00:20:52,899 --> 00:20:49,520 understand ether was the way gravity 546 00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:52,909 effects a planet I've heard people tell 547 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:55,640 me that gravity is a push not a pull but 548 00:21:01,299 --> 00:20:58,610 how does that work using a planet as an 549 00:21:04,419 --> 00:21:01,309 example tell us about this displacement 550 00:21:05,649 --> 00:21:04,429 situation yeah so the push theory and 551 00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:05,659 I'm not the first one to come up with a 552 00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,940 push theory of gravity I thought I was 553 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:09,919 when I came up with it because I had 554 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:12,049 never heard of it everybody is familiar 555 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:13,730 with concept of the gravitational pull 556 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:15,200 but in reality there is no gravitational 557 00:21:19,210 --> 00:21:17,570 pull it is a gravitational push and 558 00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,220 objects to push down to the ground and 559 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,159 so if we look at just to get the idea of 560 00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:24,559 what displacement is this is volumetric 561 00:21:28,989 --> 00:21:26,600 displacement let's say there's a bowling 562 00:21:30,580 --> 00:21:28,999 ball and you put that bowling ball in a 563 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:30,590 tub of water well the water is going to 564 00:21:34,869 --> 00:21:32,350 rise by the volume of the ball and 565 00:21:36,669 --> 00:21:34,879 that's very well known and that's a 566 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:36,679 volumetric displacement whatever the 567 00:21:41,049 --> 00:21:39,230 volume is that that ball is occupying is 568 00:21:43,629 --> 00:21:41,059 going to displace and push the water 569 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:43,639 apart that water is going to rise by the 570 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:46,129 same volume as what that ball displaced 571 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:48,470 it now there's something called mass 572 00:21:53,109 --> 00:21:51,350 displacement which isn't limited to just 573 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:53,119 the surface of the ball I mean there's 574 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,769 you know couple holes in a bowling ball 575 00:21:58,570 --> 00:21:56,480 for your fingers but I mean it's not 576 00:22:01,779 --> 00:21:58,580 like a sponge it's solid and the water 577 00:22:04,299 --> 00:22:01,789 is limited to pushing back down on the 578 00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:04,309 ball just on a surface well if you have 579 00:22:08,139 --> 00:22:06,590 like the planet earth for example the 580 00:22:10,169 --> 00:22:08,149 earth has quite a bit of mass I mean 581 00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:10,179 it's relatively small planet to a lot of 582 00:22:14,889 --> 00:22:13,100 different planets out there but compared 583 00:22:16,450 --> 00:22:14,899 to us it's fairly large mass and large 584 00:22:19,810 --> 00:22:16,460 enough to have gravitational effects 585 00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:19,820 well as the earth is sitting in space 586 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,580 it's going to displace the ether just 587 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:24,320 like a bowling ball is displacing water 588 00:22:30,730 --> 00:22:27,710 in a tub as the earth is displacing the 589 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:30,740 ether outwards the ether is trying to 590 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:32,629 push back down on the earth just like 591 00:22:36,669 --> 00:22:34,490 the water is trying to push back down on 592 00:22:38,619 --> 00:22:36,679 the bowling ball the difference is is on 593 00:22:40,659 --> 00:22:38,629 the bowling ball the water is pushing 594 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:40,669 back down on the ball but it stopped at 595 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:43,070 the surface of the ball because it can't 596 00:22:46,299 --> 00:22:43,730 go any further 597 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:46,309 whereas the earth you know the so-called 598 00:22:52,389 --> 00:22:48,529 atomic matrix of what makes up all 599 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:52,399 matter has a lot of empty space compared 600 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:54,200 to you know so-called physical space is 601 00:22:58,930 --> 00:22:56,690 more empty than it is solid and what 602 00:23:01,539 --> 00:22:58,940 happens is as the earth is pushing the 603 00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:01,549 ether out and displacing it the ether is 604 00:23:06,009 --> 00:23:03,470 pushing back down on the surface of the 605 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:06,019 planet but that ether is able to move 606 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:08,590 through all the space of all the matter 607 00:23:13,659 --> 00:23:11,330 moving back down towards where it was 608 00:23:15,130 --> 00:23:13,669 displaced from which means the ether is 609 00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:15,140 coming from the outside and 610 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:17,750 moving down towards the surface pushing 611 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:19,970 on every object as it makes its way back 612 00:23:26,170 --> 00:23:23,450 down towards the center of the earth it 613 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:26,180 does not reach an equilibrium and the 614 00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:28,370 reason is is because I think Tesla might 615 00:23:31,690 --> 00:23:29,420 have been the first one to point this 616 00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:31,700 out and it's kind of difficult to find 617 00:23:36,490 --> 00:23:33,830 this reference online but he said 618 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:36,500 something to the effect of electrons are 619 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:38,090 also created in the center of the earth 620 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:39,950 and they rise to the surface like 621 00:23:44,770 --> 00:23:42,290 artesian water well what happens with 622 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:44,780 the ether is as it's rebounding back 623 00:23:49,180 --> 00:23:47,570 towards the center of the earth there's 624 00:23:51,460 --> 00:23:49,190 different types of interactions where 625 00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:51,470 they create different particles such as 626 00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:54,230 electrons so to speak which flow to the 627 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:55,670 surface of the earth so it's in constant 628 00:24:00,670 --> 00:23:57,530 movement as it's creating these 629 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:00,680 electrons and so as the ether is moving 630 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:03,530 in the downward direction let's just 631 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:05,720 take an example of like a block of wood 632 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:08,510 and a block of lead well a block of wood 633 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:10,730 is not very dense compared to the block 634 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:13,220 of lead even if they're both one cubic 635 00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:15,530 foot one cubic foot would basically be 636 00:24:21,090 --> 00:24:17,900 the volume of space that they're taking 637 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:21,100 up but they weigh very different because 638 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:23,240 the lead is under a lot more effective 639 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:25,010 gravity than the wood is because you can 640 00:24:30,250 --> 00:24:27,560 obviously lift up a one cubic foot block 641 00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:30,260 of wood fairly easily but when you try 642 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:32,060 to lift the block of lead it's the same 643 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:33,830 size but you're not a card to be able to 644 00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:36,590 budget and what happens is inside the 645 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:39,020 atomic matrix of each of those there's a 646 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:41,030 lot more empty space in the wood 647 00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:42,500 compared to the lead 648 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:44,540 so as the ether is moving from above 649 00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:48,530 down through both objects there's a lot 650 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:52,640 more matter there in the lead to push on 651 00:24:58,140 --> 00:24:55,430 there's more nucleus of the atoms in 652 00:25:00,610 --> 00:24:58,150 that lead for the ether to push on 653 00:25:02,830 --> 00:25:00,620 compared to the wood let's take an 654 00:25:03,940 --> 00:25:02,840 analogy of a river flowing to make it a 655 00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:03,950 little bit more simple if you have a 656 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:06,590 river flowing and you have a one inch 657 00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:09,290 mesh net that you try to drag through 658 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:11,180 the water that's like the wood it's more 659 00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:13,250 open and more spacious and the water can 660 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,350 move through that one inch mesh really 661 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:16,880 really easy with not much resistance 662 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:19,250 that's why you can drag the net through 663 00:25:21,910 --> 00:25:20,450 the water pretty easy 664 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:21,920 that's like lifting the object up 665 00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:24,530 against gravity with not much effect and 666 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:27,020 that's the wood now let's take a net of 667 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:28,370 one millimeter 668 00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:30,800 mesh that's representing a lot more 669 00:25:35,290 --> 00:25:33,260 dense atomic matrix in that lead and if 670 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:35,300 you try to drag that one millimeter mesh 671 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,010 net through the river flowing at the 672 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:38,960 exact same rate there's a lot more of 673 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:40,970 that net to hit on which means you're 674 00:25:43,660 --> 00:25:41,840 going to experience a lot more 675 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:43,670 resistance and that's like the ether 676 00:25:47,710 --> 00:25:45,950 trying to move through the lead is that 677 00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:47,720 it's a lot more dense and lot more 678 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:50,870 compact therefore it's a lot more atoms 679 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:53,030 to push on as it's moving through and 680 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:54,200 that's why you have a lot more 681 00:26:00,910 --> 00:25:57,050 resistance and so looking at these ideas 682 00:26:02,290 --> 00:26:00,920 from a fluid type of concept it's all 683 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:02,300 like these fluid dynamics 684 00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:04,550 however fluids kind of glow this is the 685 00:26:08,350 --> 00:26:06,350 way that ether flows and this is kind of 686 00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:08,360 a common concept that even Tesla was 687 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:10,340 talking about is that ether kind of 688 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:12,290 moves like a gas or a fluid under 689 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:15,679 pressure that makes sense to me and I 690 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,900 think this is all just a really good way 691 00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:19,760 to explain these types of things to 692 00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:22,280 people and a net moving through water is 693 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,980 a great example if you swing a butterfly 694 00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:26,960 net through the air versus swinging a 695 00:26:31,630 --> 00:26:28,700 kayak paddle through the air the 696 00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,640 resistance on the objects is similar to 697 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:33,679 swinging them through water in terms of 698 00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:36,230 the ratio of work required between them 699 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:38,840 so it's really just like as simple as 700 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:41,450 the same principles apply because the 701 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:44,809 ether is like an invisible ocean in open 702 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:47,570 space is just less dense less obvious 703 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,630 and as expected objects that are more 704 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:52,640 dense are more solid are going to take 705 00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:54,290 more work to push through it the 706 00:26:59,980 --> 00:26:55,940 implication being that they're pushing 707 00:27:02,169 --> 00:26:59,990 through something some type of medium or 708 00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:02,179 why does it have that effect and right 709 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:03,860 there we're saying that's detecting 710 00:27:09,730 --> 00:27:08,090 ether to a degree and I think it does 711 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,740 make sense even though using the right 712 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:12,559 language and terms is a bit slippery for 713 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:14,990 me but I think we're explaining it well 714 00:27:18,490 --> 00:27:16,910 right sounds like I'm kind of getting it 715 00:27:19,870 --> 00:27:18,500 okay yeah absolutely 716 00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:19,880 this is where the source of 717 00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:21,860 gravitational potential and all 718 00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,900 potential comes from and so in the 719 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:25,760 examples if it takes you know one Joule 720 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:28,460 of work to lift an object of a certain 721 00:27:33,370 --> 00:27:30,410 weight to a certain height you 722 00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:33,380 dissipated all that energy at the peak 723 00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:35,960 of the lift and when you let go it's a 724 00:27:40,690 --> 00:27:38,270 downward glowing ether which is going to 725 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:40,700 push on the mass that makes up the 726 00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:41,850 matter of that object 727 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:43,560 and that's what pushes it back to the 728 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:45,090 ground and that's why objects will fall 729 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:46,560 back to the ground when you let go of it 730 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:49,290 so now you can see where the source of 731 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:51,450 that push is coming from and why gravity 732 00:27:56,270 --> 00:27:54,510 is a push and not a pool and that there 733 00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:56,280 is an external source of potential 734 00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:58,380 that's going to do work because as soon 735 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:00,120 as that gravitational potential which is 736 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:02,610 that downward flowing ether pushes on 737 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:04,410 the object now object hits the ground 738 00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:06,570 then work is done and that's work that 739 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:09,060 was done by potential that comes 740 00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:11,220 completely external from ourself so 741 00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,870 that's why you can add up our work to 742 00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:14,460 lift it and then there's extra work 743 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:16,680 being done which is complements of 744 00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:19,050 environmental input which is the ether 745 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:21,980 which comes absolutely for free and so 746 00:28:25,490 --> 00:28:23,850 they're going to say well you had to do 747 00:28:27,770 --> 00:28:25,500 work to lift it yeah but we got 748 00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:27,780 something out of that work when we 749 00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:28,920 lifted it it was the lift with the 750 00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:32,460 object in and of itself and so looking 751 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:35,100 at this displacement concept it starts 752 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:37,470 to fit one of the pieces into the puzzle 753 00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:39,450 which is necessary to kind of see the 754 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:40,800 overall scheme of things on how the 755 00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,590 ether is there how it works when you see 756 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:45,840 this type of gravitational concept you 757 00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:47,970 can see that these fictitious ideas of 758 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:51,720 mass kerbs space and that you're storing 759 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:53,970 potential into an object or completely 760 00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:56,910 ludicrous right and so these open 761 00:29:01,940 --> 00:28:59,730 systems verse closed systems points as 762 00:29:03,980 --> 00:29:01,950 well as the work potential and energy 763 00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:03,990 points these are fundamental 764 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:05,340 understandings because we're going to 765 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:07,590 get into the idea of batteries and 766 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:10,560 devices that have more output than they 767 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:12,930 have input or these things that people 768 00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:14,970 think are impossible and it's because 769 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:17,220 they're thinking about energy and work 770 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:19,650 and potential and systems incorrectly so 771 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:21,060 these are some fundamental things that 772 00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:24,210 we had to get out upfront but quick 773 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:25,860 sidenote because something you said in 774 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:27,750 your hacking the ether presentation 775 00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:29,610 really stuck with me if we revisit 776 00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:32,100 planets we already established that 777 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:34,440 gravity is a push because the ethers 778 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:36,330 been displaced by a big mass and it's 779 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:39,510 trying to re occupy that space similar 780 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,450 similarly to the way water would but if 781 00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:44,460 I understand you correctly in that 782 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:46,950 presentation and you kind of mentioned 783 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:47,850 it earlier as well 784 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:50,370 ether is in the center of the mass and 785 00:29:55,289 --> 00:29:53,310 is also pushing out from the middle 786 00:29:57,389 --> 00:29:55,299 which sounds like you're 787 00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,399 saying that there could be a cavity in 788 00:30:02,489 --> 00:30:00,159 the middle of the earth that's possible 789 00:30:04,529 --> 00:30:02,499 for example one idea that Eric Dollard 790 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:04,539 subscribes to is almost like a Hollow 791 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:08,049 Earth type theory he's been able to 792 00:30:13,399 --> 00:30:10,330 determine that with his so-called earth 793 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:13,409 telescope technology which is this Tesla 794 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,720 Alexander Chen style antenna system to 795 00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:17,679 look at signals from 796 00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:19,960 the Inner Earth for his earthquake 797 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:23,230 forecasting technology I might have a 798 00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:24,789 little bit different perspective on it 799 00:30:28,259 --> 00:30:26,950 or actually I'd we don't have much of an 800 00:30:30,269 --> 00:30:28,269 opinion whether there's a Hollow Earth 801 00:30:33,509 --> 00:30:30,279 or not but this idea that there's a 802 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:33,519 solid ball of or a molten iron core 803 00:30:36,509 --> 00:30:35,049 spinning around creating a magnetic 804 00:30:39,149 --> 00:30:36,519 field is also a completely ludicrous 805 00:30:41,159 --> 00:30:39,159 idea I mean the first thing that iron 806 00:30:43,649 --> 00:30:41,169 does when you heat it up is it loses its 807 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:43,659 ability to retain magnetism yet they 808 00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:46,570 have a what a liquid molten ball of iron 809 00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:48,070 spinning around creating a magnetic 810 00:30:51,149 --> 00:30:48,489 field 811 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,159 well molten iron can't have a magnetic 812 00:30:55,049 --> 00:30:53,440 field so you know start looking at these 813 00:30:57,239 --> 00:30:55,059 kind of things a lot of things just 814 00:30:59,310 --> 00:30:57,249 start falling apart if you could clarify 815 00:31:01,229 --> 00:30:59,320 a little bit what you mean by moving 816 00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,239 from the inside out do you mean white 817 00:31:05,879 --> 00:31:03,039 when I mentioned the electrons rising to 818 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:05,889 the surface of the earth or maybe maybe 819 00:31:10,289 --> 00:31:08,049 it was electrons but you just had a 820 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:10,299 series of arrows showing the ether 821 00:31:14,879 --> 00:31:12,580 pushing down on the planet out in space 822 00:31:17,729 --> 00:31:14,889 and that this displacement is what 823 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:17,739 causes the ether to push back towards 824 00:31:21,989 --> 00:31:19,570 the planet from all sides and that's 825 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:21,999 what people call gravity and that's 826 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:23,769 where I think about that bowling ball in 827 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,590 water analogy but on your diagram you 828 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:28,720 also have arrows in the center pushing 829 00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:30,850 out and I thought that was saying that 830 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:33,190 instead of ether just pushing down from 831 00:31:37,769 --> 00:31:35,289 the outside it also sort of comes 832 00:31:39,479 --> 00:31:37,779 together in the middle and pushes out 833 00:31:42,479 --> 00:31:39,489 from the core as well maybe it is 834 00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:42,489 electrons or electrons and ether but I 835 00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:43,809 just found that to be an interesting 836 00:31:50,099 --> 00:31:47,649 detail in the model yeah I mean there's 837 00:31:51,149 --> 00:31:50,109 going to be centrifugal forces and that 838 00:31:53,489 --> 00:31:51,159 kind of thing that can come into play 839 00:31:55,349 --> 00:31:53,499 those arrows kind of indicate that there 840 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:55,359 is a constant flow of the ether and it 841 00:32:01,440 --> 00:31:58,799 does not come into equilibrium and the 842 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:01,450 idea for example like Tesla mentioning 843 00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:03,070 that electrons are created in the Inner 844 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:04,899 Earth and then they rise to the surface 845 00:32:08,129 --> 00:32:06,609 of the earth it's just showing that 846 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:08,139 there can be this particle creation 847 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,890 process 848 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:11,200 of the ether in the Inner Earth and so 849 00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:13,330 if they are rising to the surface then 850 00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:15,040 that leaves kind of a void that allows 851 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:16,870 the ether to constantly be moving in 852 00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:19,120 that fashion instead of just moving into 853 00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:21,100 the middle and stopping right and that's 854 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:22,420 why there's a constant flow and that's 855 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:24,370 really what the arrow moving in and then 856 00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:27,400 back out is supposed to represent okay 857 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:29,800 okay and so I guess sticking with the 858 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:31,630 bowling ball and water example obviously 859 00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:34,030 water can't pass through a bowling ball 860 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:35,740 but these particles can actually pass 861 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:38,080 through to the center of the earth or 862 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:39,910 maybe electrons are created there Who am 863 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:43,030 I to argue with Tesla but if they create 864 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:45,130 a push from the outside that we call 865 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:47,770 gravity they would probably form a 866 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,050 similar push from the inside as well it 867 00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:50,530 seems 868 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:52,660 yeah and that kind of effect is there 869 00:32:57,570 --> 00:32:54,700 and we can see that with rotating 870 00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:57,580 objects for example Bruce DePalma who is 871 00:33:01,800 --> 00:32:59,170 an educator MIT and did a lot of 872 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:01,810 profound work in many fields of energy 873 00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:04,390 research and so called homopolar 874 00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:06,760 generators which are reaction --less 875 00:33:10,290 --> 00:33:08,740 generators you can draw electricity from 876 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:10,300 it and it doesn't bog down the motor 877 00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:12,130 turning it and he did a lot of 878 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:14,800 experiments with inertia and rotating 879 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:17,650 objects and looking at how we can get a 880 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:19,930 source of energy from space itself and 881 00:33:25,550 --> 00:33:22,990 one of the experiments he did was he had 882 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:25,560 to one-inch pin balls or something and 883 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:29,530 they're both in cups one cup is still on 884 00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:31,750 a platform and one is I believe it was 885 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:33,880 being rotated by a dremel some type of 886 00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:36,790 high-speed drill maybe about 20,000 rpm 887 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,830 well according to relativity both these 888 00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:40,720 objects if they're launched into the air 889 00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:43,780 one is stationary and one is spinning 890 00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:46,030 they should go up at the same rate and 891 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:47,140 they should come down at the same rate 892 00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:49,660 well in reality what happens when that 893 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:52,630 experiment is conducted is that the one 894 00:33:58,980 --> 00:33:55,930 that is spinning actually accelerates to 895 00:34:01,860 --> 00:33:58,990 a higher height faster and then as it's 896 00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:01,870 falling it starts to fall faster then 897 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:04,390 the stationary one which is falling so 898 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:06,160 it goes up faster hits a higher peak 899 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:07,450 then it comes down and hits the ground 900 00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:10,270 before the stationary one and that 901 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,340 completely defeats you know the whole 902 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:14,320 concepts relativity and a lot of things 903 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:15,580 fall apart just from that experiment 904 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:17,020 that's an experiment every junior high 905 00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:18,610 should be doing because it's so simple 906 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:21,020 it's very easy experiment but 907 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:22,820 in my model what's happening is a 908 00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:25,369 spinning one is actually deflecting and 909 00:34:30,490 --> 00:34:27,950 moving the ether that it's encountering 910 00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:30,500 as it's moving upwards out to its outer 911 00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:33,470 edge which means it's reducing the 912 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:35,020 amount of ether that's moving through 913 00:34:40,510 --> 00:34:38,330 the spinning Bowl and so not as much 914 00:34:43,050 --> 00:34:40,520 ether is able to hit on all the mass 915 00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:43,060 which means you just reduced inertia 916 00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:46,040 that's why it can accelerate higher even 917 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:47,359 though you put the same amount of work 918 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:50,210 into launching both of the objects into 919 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:52,730 the air how can one go higher than the 920 00:34:57,070 --> 00:34:55,240 other and the one that spinning is 921 00:34:59,859 --> 00:34:57,080 deflecting the ether that would normally 922 00:35:02,290 --> 00:34:59,869 be pushing down on it out around to its 923 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:02,300 peripheral to its circumference and 924 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:05,089 that's why it's able to go up higher and 925 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:07,609 faster because the stuff which causes 926 00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:10,220 inertia is going to be moving through 927 00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:13,430 the object but if the ball is spinning 928 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:15,140 and is deflecting the ether around it 929 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:17,210 not as much can push through it so there 930 00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:19,460 is a reduced inertia effect and the same 931 00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:21,020 thing is happening as it's falling it's 932 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:22,760 not going to fall at the normal nine 933 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:24,680 point eight one meters per second per 934 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:27,890 second it's deflecting the ether away 935 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:30,650 from it as it's moving towards the 936 00:35:34,780 --> 00:35:32,570 ground like if a diver jumps off a 937 00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:34,790 diving board and as the diver hits the 938 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:37,220 water they can kind of part the water so 939 00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:38,930 they can go in with less resistance and 940 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:41,720 with a spinning ball is doing is it's 941 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:43,760 deflecting the ether which is flowing at 942 00:35:50,170 --> 00:35:46,940 9.81 meters per second per second away 943 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:50,180 from out towards the side like a diver 944 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:52,010 splitting the water that's what the 945 00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:53,810 falling spinning ball is doing is this 946 00:35:57,940 --> 00:35:56,030 deflecting the ether out away from it so 947 00:36:00,970 --> 00:35:57,950 it can actually fall faster than the 948 00:36:02,349 --> 00:36:00,980 normal gravitational ball right and this 949 00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:02,359 is another one of those things that when 950 00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:04,940 you see the visual it's quite clear it's 951 00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:07,070 a simple example of where you say you 952 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,560 could just take two rubber balls and 953 00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:11,359 throw them in the air at the same 954 00:36:15,370 --> 00:36:13,460 trajectory but one if you could get one 955 00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:15,380 spinning you would obviously see that 956 00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:18,260 that has a huge effect on the art of the 957 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:20,390 throw and the way it lands kind of like 958 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:22,130 the way I'm trying to think of this for 959 00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:24,410 people without the visual aid is at the 960 00:36:28,990 --> 00:36:26,180 quantum level if you think of matter is 961 00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:29,000 more mesh like and you think about a net 962 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:31,070 in water if you just run a net through 963 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:34,890 water you know you're going to get one 964 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:37,110 but if that net were spinning well then 965 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:38,820 it's going to be harder for the water to 966 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,460 make its way through that mesh like 967 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,140 material because it's going to be moving 968 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:44,880 in all different directions rather than 969 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,370 just flowing straight through it I mean 970 00:36:52,820 --> 00:36:50,160 that is kind of a weird example but it 971 00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:52,830 shows that there is a material of a 972 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:56,070 medium in the open air that it has is 973 00:36:59,980 --> 00:36:57,690 having an effect I guess my question 974 00:37:02,510 --> 00:36:59,990 would be is there a difference between 975 00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:02,520 ether inside and outside of our 976 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:05,550 atmosphere I don't believe so it's going 977 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:07,290 to be the same type of ether but the 978 00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:10,230 example you point out with a net just 979 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:11,430 moving through the water or if you 980 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:12,840 rotate that net move it you're going to 981 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:14,790 get more resistance there's like if you 982 00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:17,130 look at say like a regular household fan 983 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:19,800 if you look at the blades and the fan is 984 00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:22,560 off you have all this open space you 985 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:24,550 know where the blades are not 986 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:26,440 if you took like a little I don't know 987 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:27,880 little stick or something you could 988 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,220 launch it like a little arrow through 989 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:32,800 that space with the fan blade just 990 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:34,510 sitting there still but if you turn that 991 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:38,170 fan on high for example as it's spinning 992 00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:40,990 that blade is occupying more space per 993 00:37:45,210 --> 00:37:43,150 unit of time and it's going to be a lot 994 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:45,220 more difficult to take that same exact 995 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:47,050 arrow and launch it through that empty 996 00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:49,690 space and that's similar to the analogy 997 00:37:55,230 --> 00:37:52,150 that you made a net that's still in the 998 00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:55,240 net that's rotating right and or take a 999 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:57,220 little rubber ball or something and you 1000 00:38:01,320 --> 00:37:59,050 throw it through the space between the 1001 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:01,330 blades of a van that's rotating very 1002 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:03,940 very slow or not at all and then you 1003 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:05,410 turn the fan on it's going to be very 1004 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:07,090 difficult to throw that ball through it 1005 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:09,010 and that's a very good analogy of 1006 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:11,530 exactly what you're explaining yes your 1007 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:13,750 fan analogy is really great because it's 1008 00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:17,440 easy to visualize for sure and so I 1009 00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:20,200 guess let me ask you this if I'm part of 1010 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:22,780 a cabal at the top of the pyramid that 1011 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:25,780 runs the world hypothetically why do I 1012 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:28,480 want to keep ether physics a secret why 1013 00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:29,770 do I want to keep that out of the 1014 00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:31,420 schools and out of the scientific 1015 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:33,150 community 1016 00:38:38,299 --> 00:38:35,970 well what it does is it shows the 1017 00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:38,309 possibility that there's an infinite 1018 00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:39,869 source of potential that can be kept 1019 00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:42,990 anywhere at any time and if people are 1020 00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:45,150 brainwashed into not believing that 1021 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:48,119 there's the ether and that if you lift 1022 00:38:52,249 --> 00:38:49,890 an object and you're storing potential 1023 00:38:55,339 --> 00:38:52,259 energy and the object itself that means 1024 00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:55,349 there's no free environmental source of 1025 00:39:01,759 --> 00:38:57,240 input anywhere you have to constantly be 1026 00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,769 relying on a vineet energy source or a 1027 00:39:06,319 --> 00:39:03,839 consumable energy source whether it's 1028 00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:06,329 gasoline or whatever else it happens to 1029 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:08,339 be those are all going to be necessary 1030 00:39:13,099 --> 00:39:11,880 as long as all there is is source 1031 00:39:15,799 --> 00:39:13,109 potential that you're putting into the 1032 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:15,809 system yourself and if nothing can come 1033 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:17,249 from the environment then you're always 1034 00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:19,380 going to have a fixed amount that's just 1035 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:20,940 going to dwindle down until it's gone 1036 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:22,829 they have to turn around repurchase it 1037 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:26,130 but if people can open up their minds to 1038 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:28,170 actually see the possibility that extra 1039 00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:29,910 input can come from the environment in 1040 00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:32,940 whole or in part then that's when 1041 00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:34,380 everything kind of falls apart we're no 1042 00:39:38,989 --> 00:39:36,329 longer dependent on somebody to supply 1043 00:39:41,029 --> 00:39:38,999 it to us these kind of concepts of these 1044 00:39:43,279 --> 00:39:41,039 open systems is really a simple concept 1045 00:39:44,779 --> 00:39:43,289 people have these type of systems all 1046 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:44,789 around them because in fact that's the 1047 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:47,190 only type of systems that there are if 1048 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:48,630 there's a child flying a kite for 1049 00:39:53,269 --> 00:39:51,690 example and they're out in the field but 1050 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,279 there's enough wind blowing child can 1051 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:54,720 get the kite into the air tie it off on 1052 00:39:57,620 --> 00:39:56,220 a bench walk away and it will continue 1053 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:57,630 to fly as long as the wind is blowing 1054 00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:00,720 well if we look at simple concepts like 1055 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:04,440 this obviously that kite is able to fly 1056 00:40:08,029 --> 00:40:06,210 and it's not even coming from any energy 1057 00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,039 that the kid put in it obviously the kid 1058 00:40:12,769 --> 00:40:10,440 had to put some energy to get it to get 1059 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:12,779 into the air because what ties together 1060 00:40:16,759 --> 00:40:15,089 the concept of open systems and how 1061 00:40:18,769 --> 00:40:16,769 these type of machines and different 1062 00:40:21,410 --> 00:40:18,779 technologies can produce more than what 1063 00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:21,420 we put into it is it very simple if the 1064 00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:24,569 child puts in one part work to get the 1065 00:40:28,539 --> 00:40:26,849 kite into the air and that kite is 1066 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:28,549 flying for a certain period of time and 1067 00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:31,710 during that period of time free wind 1068 00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,140 from the environment comes in and flies 1069 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,720 that kite that's ten parts input one 1070 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:39,359 from the child nine from wind that's ten 1071 00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:43,799 parts work of input well if it's a bad 1072 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:46,200 kite design and there's whatever losses 1073 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:48,410 are associated with this kite flying 1074 00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,609 experience for a certain period of time 1075 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:53,280 let's just say half of all that input is 1076 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:55,470 completely wasted in you know friction 1077 00:41:00,980 --> 00:40:57,510 heat resistance bad kite design and so 1078 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:00,990 forth that means ten parts went in one 1079 00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:03,240 from the child nine from wind ten parts 1080 00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:07,260 went in five entire parts of that input 1081 00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:09,780 is completely wasted in losses which 1082 00:41:15,859 --> 00:41:12,660 means only five parts an actual kite 1083 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:15,869 flying was actually done so ten went in 1084 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:18,810 five parts of intended flying work we're 1085 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,280 done that's only fifty percent 1086 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:23,520 efficiency and fifty percent is horrible 1087 00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:25,380 efficiency even though you know most 1088 00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:26,520 cars on the road are going to be between 1089 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:28,920 twenty and thirty percent solar panels 1090 00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:31,680 are about twenty percent and so even 1091 00:41:34,819 --> 00:41:32,849 though fifty percent is bad it's still 1092 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:34,829 you know two two and a half times better 1093 00:41:40,819 --> 00:41:37,250 than most automobiles or solar systems 1094 00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:40,829 so ten parts went in five parts work was 1095 00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:43,140 done fifty percent efficient but what 1096 00:41:47,329 --> 00:41:44,609 gets interesting is when we look at the 1097 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:47,339 perspective of how much work was done 1098 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:49,530 compared to what the child put in well 1099 00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:51,510 obviously five parts work we're done in 1100 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:53,400 flying work but the child only had to 1101 00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,640 put in one 5/1 is five hundred percent 1102 00:42:02,240 --> 00:41:58,560 which means the child put in one part 1103 00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:02,250 work but five times amount of work was 1104 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:04,200 actually done which means she just got a 1105 00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:06,089 five hundred percent return on his 1106 00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:09,329 investment and that's five times over 1107 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,550 unity so to speak or he got five times 1108 00:42:16,099 --> 00:42:13,920 more work than what he had to put in see 1109 00:42:18,589 --> 00:42:16,109 so it's not more going out than going in 1110 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:18,599 it's more going out than what he put in 1111 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:21,599 because that kid leveraged and free 1112 00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:23,910 environmental source potential and all 1113 00:42:29,569 --> 00:42:25,640 he had to do is put in one part work 1114 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:29,579 nine parts of free wind contributed to 1115 00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:31,650 the system that he really did not have 1116 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:33,180 to pay for it came free from the 1117 00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:35,609 environment and the total amount of work 1118 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:37,380 done after all the losses is five 1119 00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:38,970 hundred percent more than what he put in 1120 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,339 if anybody listening to this has a 1121 00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:43,680 refrigerator in their kitchen they have 1122 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:46,260 a free energy device that refrigerator 1123 00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:48,210 is actually producing about two times 1124 00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:50,280 more work than what you're paying for at 1125 00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:52,200 the wall it's a completely legitimate 1126 00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,140 open free energy system that's operating 1127 00:42:59,840 --> 00:42:57,540 over entity it's a heat pump so what 1128 00:43:03,260 --> 00:42:59,850 happens is if somebody for example is 1129 00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:03,270 100 hours in electricity from the wall 1130 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,640 to turn the compressor while the 1131 00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:07,140 compressor is circulating this 1132 00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:09,150 refrigerant fluid in these different 1133 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:11,880 compression and expansion stages in that 1134 00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:14,430 key pump and that refrigerator and what 1135 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:16,380 happens is that in a refrigerator you're 1136 00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,610 not putting cold into the refrigerator 1137 00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:20,160 you're removing heat you know there's a 1138 00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:22,470 big difference well if you take X amount 1139 00:43:27,620 --> 00:43:25,350 of heat and you move that that's real 1140 00:43:30,020 --> 00:43:27,630 work to move heat around but if you 1141 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:30,030 calculate how much heat in total is 1142 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:32,070 moved compared to the electrical 1143 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,210 equivalent what you're drawing from the 1144 00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:35,040 wall you find that you have about twice 1145 00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:37,260 as much work being done you're paying 1146 00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:40,380 for 100 watts for simple numbers and 1147 00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:41,670 electricity from the wall but you're 1148 00:43:46,070 --> 00:43:43,980 getting about 200 watts worth of heat 1149 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:46,080 movement over that same period of time 1150 00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:48,690 which means you're getting 200% more 1151 00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:51,150 work accomplished on what you put in so 1152 00:43:54,830 --> 00:43:52,950 it's not more going out than going in 1153 00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:54,840 it's more work being done than what we 1154 00:43:59,720 --> 00:43:57,480 contribute we contribute 100 but what 1155 00:44:02,480 --> 00:43:59,730 happens is heat in the environment moves 1156 00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:02,490 absolutely free to a lower potential or 1157 00:44:07,070 --> 00:44:05,280 to a cold source and we don't really 1158 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:07,080 have to pay for that heat movement it 1159 00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:09,570 just happens automatically and so that's 1160 00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:12,060 a simple example of a machine that 1161 00:44:16,010 --> 00:44:13,800 everybody has that's free energy machine 1162 00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:16,020 see like in a kite-flying analogy it's 1163 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,400 50 percent efficient 1164 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:20,400 well efficiency is one measurement that 1165 00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:22,710 people are familiar with well if you 1166 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:24,750 take the total work five times flying 1167 00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:26,610 work divided by the one that the kid put 1168 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:29,430 in it's five hundred percent more well 1169 00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:32,640 five divided by one is five point zero 1170 00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:35,070 but what that five point zero is is 1171 00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:36,630 that's called a coefficient of 1172 00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:39,300 performance coefficient of performance 1173 00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:42,720 or Co P for short is the ratio of the 1174 00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:44,550 total work compared to what we put in 1175 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:45,840 and we don't include the free 1176 00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:48,510 environmental input well in conventional 1177 00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:50,460 engineering and science and physics it's 1178 00:44:55,340 --> 00:44:53,460 completely acceptable for heat pump to 1179 00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:55,350 have a CO P or a coefficient of 1180 00:45:01,730 --> 00:44:58,020 performance over one point Oh your 1181 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:01,740 refrigerator might be 2.0 there's heat 1182 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:04,410 pump hot water heaters so instead of a 1183 00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:06,840 hot water heating element in your boiler 1184 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:08,340 room or whatever you have to heat your 1185 00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:11,910 water if that electrical water heater is 1186 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:13,859 operating at a CO P about one 1187 00:45:18,229 --> 00:45:16,049 point-o it's about 100 percent efficient 1188 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:18,239 because a hundred percent conceptually 1189 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:20,249 of that electric current moving through 1190 00:45:22,819 --> 00:45:22,200 that heating element is being turned 1191 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:22,829 into heat 1192 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:24,930 typically heat would be considered waste 1193 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:27,119 but since we want the heat that's the 1194 00:45:31,339 --> 00:45:29,609 work that we want so an electric hot 1195 00:45:33,529 --> 00:45:31,349 water heater is 100 percent efficient at 1196 00:45:35,329 --> 00:45:33,539 converting that electricity to heat it 1197 00:45:37,699 --> 00:45:35,339 really isn't but that's what's commonly 1198 00:45:39,620 --> 00:45:37,709 believed it's close but if we look at a 1199 00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:39,630 heat pump there's one called a Stiebel 1200 00:45:44,299 --> 00:45:41,369 l-tron I think that's the best one on 1201 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:44,309 the market it's a German one and it only 1202 00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:47,249 takes maybe about maybe 600 watts of 1203 00:45:53,089 --> 00:45:49,619 electricity to produce maybe about 2,500 1204 00:45:55,009 --> 00:45:53,099 watts of heat of hot water I know it 1205 00:45:57,799 --> 00:45:55,019 depending on the ambient temperature it 1206 00:45:59,749 --> 00:45:57,809 has a CO P of 2.4 which means if you 1207 00:46:02,660 --> 00:45:59,759 have one of these heat pump hot water 1208 00:46:04,759 --> 00:46:02,670 heaters you can produce two point two 1209 00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:04,769 hundred and forty percent more hot water 1210 00:46:08,959 --> 00:46:06,119 than the electricity you're drawing from 1211 00:46:12,499 --> 00:46:08,969 the wall so it's acceptable to have a 1212 00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:12,509 heat pump that can be over 1.0 Co P 1213 00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:14,190 because it's understood heat moves for 1214 00:46:19,189 --> 00:46:16,859 free towards a lower potential but as 1215 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,199 soon as you start talking about over 1.0 1216 00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:22,319 Co P devices and machines that are not 1217 00:46:27,739 --> 00:46:25,380 heat pumps that's when but you know what 1218 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:27,749 hits the fan and you know they cry fail 1219 00:46:31,579 --> 00:46:29,849 oh you can't have that it's totally 1220 00:46:34,299 --> 00:46:31,589 impossible this perpetual motion and all 1221 00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:34,309 this stuff so then what you see is this 1222 00:46:39,949 --> 00:46:37,079 degenerate mentality breaking down 1223 00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:39,959 claiming that oh well that type of 1224 00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:42,420 process can only happen selectively in 1225 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,859 these systems but they can't happen in 1226 00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:45,119 other systems which is completely 1227 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,430 ridiculous and so there are only 1228 00:46:51,319 --> 00:46:49,920 selectively allowing over 1.0 Co P to 1229 00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:51,329 apply to heat pumps but they don't want 1230 00:46:56,829 --> 00:46:53,579 you to understand that you can have over 1231 00:46:58,699 --> 00:46:56,839 1.0 Co P and mechanical systems in 1232 00:47:02,479 --> 00:46:58,709 electromagnetic or electrical type 1233 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:02,489 systems or other systems but it's really 1234 00:47:06,469 --> 00:47:04,410 common sense that those type of systems 1235 00:47:08,779 --> 00:47:06,479 do indeed exist and they're all over the 1236 00:47:11,930 --> 00:47:08,789 place if you look at every solar system 1237 00:47:13,999 --> 00:47:11,940 you put in zero and a hundred percent of 1238 00:47:16,849 --> 00:47:14,009 the input is coming from the Sun well 1239 00:47:19,219 --> 00:47:16,859 the Co P is conceptually it's considered 1240 00:47:21,319 --> 00:47:19,229 to be an infinite Co P because anything 1241 00:47:23,059 --> 00:47:21,329 that it's producing is infinitely 1242 00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:23,069 greater than nothing that we have to put 1243 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:25,529 in if you look at a wind power generator 1244 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:27,540 on a wind farm every win 1245 00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:29,130 power generator is operating at a 1246 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:31,230 coefficient of performance of infinity 1247 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:34,130 it's an infinite co P because any 1248 00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:36,810 electricity that that wind generator is 1249 00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:38,760 producing is infinitely greater than 1250 00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:41,640 zero input from an operator because we 1251 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:42,990 don't have to put anything into it we 1252 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:44,130 don't have to put anything into a solar 1253 00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:47,130 system so obviously there's an over 1.0 1254 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:49,380 coefficient of performance on solar 1255 00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:52,410 panels and keet systems or solar panels 1256 00:47:58,820 --> 00:47:56,070 and wind generators and so it doesn't 1257 00:48:01,610 --> 00:47:58,830 only apply to heat systems and in fact 1258 00:48:03,830 --> 00:48:01,620 there are mechanical systems and there's 1259 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:03,840 electrical or electromagnetic systems 1260 00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:09,390 that are over 1.0 COP i mean this is all 1261 00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:11,100 really interesting so obviously you're 1262 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,380 saying that we have real-world examples 1263 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:14,640 that we take for granted 1264 00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:17,090 they've just compartmentalised them and 1265 00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:19,590 made us think that these same principles 1266 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:22,140 couldn't apply to other systems and 1267 00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:24,510 that's just wrong and it really is kind 1268 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:27,300 of flipping the model and it's why the 1269 00:48:31,810 --> 00:48:29,970 open systems philosophy is so important 1270 00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:31,820 to get out there because you're kind of 1271 00:48:37,850 --> 00:48:35,220 breaking down where work comes from and 1272 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:37,860 if the work didn't come from you and it 1273 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:40,110 was input from environmental sources 1274 00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:43,410 then that's going to contribute to a net 1275 00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:45,630 gain in the end but because we think of 1276 00:48:49,610 --> 00:48:47,910 things as these closed systems I guess 1277 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:49,620 we're not pulling in those other energy 1278 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:51,570 sources or factoring them into the 1279 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:54,210 equation and that's kind of the problem 1280 00:48:58,310 --> 00:48:55,890 because we have this ether everywhere 1281 00:49:01,160 --> 00:48:58,320 and it is part of our environment and it 1282 00:49:03,350 --> 00:49:01,170 is tappa Bowl and without acknowledging 1283 00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:03,360 it it's very hard to explain to people 1284 00:49:09,290 --> 00:49:05,820 why you can get more out of something 1285 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,300 than you put in is that the gist yeah 1286 00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:12,720 and people actually take part in open 1287 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:14,520 systems and they don't even know it I 1288 00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,890 mean anybody who's a farmer or gardener 1289 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:18,540 if you plant a seed in the ground you 1290 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:20,610 put a little bit of work into it but if 1291 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:21,930 you come back you know however long 1292 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:24,450 later let's say it's a fruit tree or 1293 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:26,190 something and you plant a cherry pit and 1294 00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:27,600 then you know a couple years later you 1295 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:28,950 come back and here's this tree with 1296 00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:31,050 thousands of cherries on it well all 1297 00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:33,240 that free input is you know you got 1298 00:49:37,610 --> 00:49:35,400 sunshine you got rain you got nutrients 1299 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,620 from the soil you got air we're not 1300 00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:39,680 paying for any of that it took just a 1301 00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,340 infinitesimally small 1302 00:49:46,070 --> 00:49:44,160 amount of work put that pit in there but 1303 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:46,080 you walked away and the nature took over 1304 00:49:51,230 --> 00:49:48,090 and all these environmental inputs of 1305 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:51,240 you know heat light water nutrients air 1306 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,790 and all this contributed to growing that 1307 00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:55,920 cherry tree well as roots are growing 1308 00:49:59,300 --> 00:49:57,720 they're expanding and they're pushing 1309 00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:59,310 against soil creating heat and the 1310 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,780 resistance and moving up against gravity 1311 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:02,880 you got millions and millions and 1312 00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:04,410 millions of times more work were 1313 00:50:08,540 --> 00:50:06,180 accomplished growing that tree compared 1314 00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:08,550 to the small almost insignificant amount 1315 00:50:13,820 --> 00:50:10,110 of work that it took to plant that seed 1316 00:50:15,590 --> 00:50:13,830 and so everywhere you look when people 1317 00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:15,600 really start opening their eyes to 1318 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:17,880 looking at it for what it is there's 1319 00:50:21,890 --> 00:50:19,530 nothing magical you know growing a 1320 00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:21,900 cherry tree is not perpetual motion it's 1321 00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:24,540 a completely legitimate over 1.0 COP 1322 00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:26,520 free energy system you put in a little 1323 00:50:29,390 --> 00:50:26,940 bit 1324 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:29,400 three environmental input comes in so 1325 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:30,690 the total amount of work done can be 1326 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:32,730 more than what we put in and again the 1327 00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:34,530 distinction is not more than going in 1328 00:50:38,570 --> 00:50:36,750 it's more going out than what we put in 1329 00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:38,580 because obviously there's extra input 1330 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,790 from somewhere else mm-hmm so that the 1331 00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:43,680 lesson really is that we should harness 1332 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:45,660 our environment in all cases and work 1333 00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:48,450 with it rather than against it in the 1334 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:50,270 brute force 1335 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:53,640 explosions combustion type of ways that 1336 00:50:58,910 --> 00:50:55,650 we do now because we could go with the 1337 00:51:01,970 --> 00:50:58,920 flow and use a lot less energy expel a 1338 00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:01,980 lot less energy so we got into that 1339 00:51:05,690 --> 00:51:03,960 ether science 101 stuff we got that out 1340 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:05,700 of the way so people can start thinking 1341 00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:07,770 in the proper context but I want to ask 1342 00:51:12,140 --> 00:51:09,750 you about the free energy conference 1343 00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:12,150 scene where these principles are put 1344 00:51:17,090 --> 00:51:14,670 into action we hear these conspiratorial 1345 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:17,100 stories from over the years of people 1346 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:19,290 showing off devices only to end up dead 1347 00:51:24,050 --> 00:51:21,090 a few years later or the device is 1348 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:24,060 stolen or some type of drama unfold some 1349 00:51:28,010 --> 00:51:26,250 kind of wrenches thrown in the works how 1350 00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:28,020 often does this happen could you give us 1351 00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:30,180 a brief history perhaps of the 1352 00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:32,670 alternative science conference scene how 1353 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:35,280 long has it been going on 1354 00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:39,210 well this past July every fourth of July 1355 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:41,550 weekend is when I organized a conference 1356 00:51:46,550 --> 00:51:44,130 near Spokane Washington here and Hayden 1357 00:51:49,130 --> 00:51:46,560 Idaho this is where John Bedini lived 1358 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:49,140 and worked and his involvement with 1359 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,640 conference goes back to the 80s for 1360 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520 example and you know with suppression 1361 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:54,960 and different things 1362 00:51:59,450 --> 00:51:56,490 there was one conference it might have 1363 00:52:00,740 --> 00:51:59,460 been be 1984 Colorado Springs conference 1364 00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:00,750 which was kind of a famous one 1365 00:52:04,310 --> 00:52:02,849 where you know everybody who's everybody 1366 00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:04,320 was there and there was a lot of 1367 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,000 different things demonstrated John 1368 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:08,400 demonstrated one technology which I 1369 00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:09,810 believe was a battery charging 1370 00:52:14,060 --> 00:52:12,540 technology where the batteries basically 1371 00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:14,070 kept themselves charged up while it was 1372 00:52:18,290 --> 00:52:16,230 powering some lights and there was 1373 00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:18,300 somebody there named I think his name 1374 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:22,230 was Jim Watson and this Jim Watson made 1375 00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:25,010 a replica of John Bedini as so-called 1376 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:27,390 1984 free energy machine John had 1377 00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:29,010 written this little book that described 1378 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:31,859 this motor generator concept that could 1379 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:34,530 produce work while it kept itself 1380 00:52:37,849 --> 00:52:35,369 charged up 1381 00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:37,859 well what John did was he always kept 1382 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:39,630 these things kind of small-scale and 1383 00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:41,730 what happened was this Watson he made a 1384 00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:43,260 large-scale one where it fit on the back 1385 00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:44,670 of a truck and this thing was really 1386 00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:47,099 really big and it was powering loads 1387 00:52:50,839 --> 00:52:48,660 while it kept all this batteries charged 1388 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:50,849 up well Watson disappeared from the 1389 00:52:54,140 --> 00:52:52,890 scene and the story is that he was given 1390 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:54,150 an offer he couldn't refuse 1391 00:53:00,560 --> 00:52:57,810 and at some point John Bandini he had 1392 00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:00,570 some visitors show up in some suits put 1393 00:53:03,260 --> 00:53:01,800 him against the wall and pulled out a 1394 00:53:04,609 --> 00:53:03,270 gun on him and they told him that he's 1395 00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:04,619 gonna be sticking the gasoline for the 1396 00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:07,260 rest of his life and once that happened 1397 00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:10,200 John was very cautious about how he 1398 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,260 approached this whole subject where he 1399 00:53:18,650 --> 00:53:15,599 kept everything small scale and little 1400 00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:18,660 proof-of-concept models because if he 1401 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:21,180 was going to build anything too big then 1402 00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:23,250 it looks like well he's going to put it 1403 00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:24,720 into practical use and he's going to be 1404 00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:26,220 competing with whatever else is out 1405 00:53:30,109 --> 00:53:27,839 there and the so-called powers that be 1406 00:53:32,570 --> 00:53:30,119 do not want that I mean it's not a 1407 00:53:34,220 --> 00:53:32,580 conspiracy theory it's business for them 1408 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:34,230 they don't want to have anything 1409 00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:36,990 jeopardize their you know pretty much 1410 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:38,910 guaranteed and secured renewable income 1411 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:40,530 you know we go to a gas pump every month 1412 00:53:43,810 --> 00:53:42,210 and we fill up and they don't want 1413 00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:43,820 anything that's going to change that and 1414 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:45,990 you know these type of technologies 1415 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:48,930 certainly can change that that was one 1416 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:49,530 of the example 1417 00:53:54,140 --> 00:53:51,780 that happened to John and it wasn't 1418 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:54,150 until about 20 let's see my first 1419 00:53:59,690 --> 00:53:56,570 conference was in 2012 I think and maybe 1420 00:54:02,060 --> 00:53:59,700 2010 2011 or so there were two 1421 00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:02,070 conferences that Peter Lindemann and I 1422 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:04,020 helped to promote somebody who is 1423 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:05,610 putting these conferences on downtown 1424 00:54:09,980 --> 00:54:07,170 Coeur d'Alene Idaho Coeur d'Alene is a 1425 00:54:12,590 --> 00:54:09,990 city about 45 minutes from Spokane 1426 00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:12,600 Washington where I'm from and at this 1427 00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:14,310 resort there was two conferences 1428 00:54:18,290 --> 00:54:15,870 back-to-back you know when you're right 1429 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:18,300 after another and this person was kind 1430 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,710 of doing some shady business behind the 1431 00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,660 scenes and so John Bedini cutting him 1432 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:24,000 off booted him out because you know he 1433 00:54:27,590 --> 00:54:25,890 was stealing and some other stuff but at 1434 00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:27,600 that conference John Vianney showed 1435 00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:30,510 several devices and he built a large 1436 00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:31,980 so-called energizer 1437 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:33,420 which I named it the ferris wheel 1438 00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:34,770 because it looked like a mini ferris 1439 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:36,900 wheel is maybe I don't know ten feet in 1440 00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:39,570 diameter had three large coils at the 1441 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:41,700 bottom of it as running on a 36 volt 1442 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:44,490 battery bank charging a 36 volt battery 1443 00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:46,290 bank while it was producing a lot of 1444 00:54:50,660 --> 00:54:49,110 mechanical work to turn this wheel and I 1445 00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:50,670 can't remember how many foot-pounds of 1446 00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:52,440 torque this thing would put out it was 1447 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,700 quite a bit I would break your arm if 1448 00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:56,160 you tried to stop it and what happened 1449 00:55:01,400 --> 00:54:57,780 was this thing pretty much ran all 1450 00:55:04,070 --> 00:55:01,410 weekend all two or three days and the 1451 00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:04,080 input battery the 36 volt battery bank 1452 00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:06,990 it never dropped it stayed charged up 1453 00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:09,150 and the batteries on the output kept 1454 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:12,300 getting overcharged and he had to 1455 00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:14,130 periodically stop this thing to keep it 1456 00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,710 from overcharging those batteries and so 1457 00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:18,780 that machine I think it was calculated 1458 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:21,480 to have a COP of about 3.0 which means 1459 00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:24,720 it's able to put about three times as 1460 00:55:29,540 --> 00:55:27,270 much charge into the battery in addition 1461 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:29,550 to the mechanical work compared to 1462 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:31,890 what's leaving the input even though the 1463 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:34,050 input battery stayed charged up you can 1464 00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:36,210 still measure that there's a certain 1465 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:38,700 voltage there and a certain current 1466 00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:41,250 which is flowing the electron current so 1467 00:55:44,570 --> 00:55:42,510 you can measure that there's something 1468 00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:44,580 leaving the battery even though the 1469 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:46,230 battery is getting a kick back so it 1470 00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:48,690 gets itself to be charged up well these 1471 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:50,430 two conferences was the first time John 1472 00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:53,250 Bedini came out and to the public like 1473 00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:55,350 this the first time since I think the 1474 00:55:59,630 --> 00:55:57,660 early 80s so is about about 30 years or 1475 00:56:02,660 --> 00:55:59,640 something like that and so after he 1476 00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:02,670 booted this one shady character out of 1477 00:56:06,110 --> 00:56:03,030 his 1478 00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:06,120 who's still out there bootlegging bought 1479 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:08,670 a John stuff I approached John and 1480 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:10,650 wanted to start doing these conferences 1481 00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:14,010 and I talked to him and the first 1482 00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:15,990 conference I think was in 2012 and we 1483 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:17,910 did this at a little Eagles Lodge in the 1484 00:56:22,490 --> 00:56:20,240 middle of nowhere and and Hayden Idaho 1485 00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:22,500 the reason we had it Bear is because 1486 00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:25,230 John's company is in Hayden he lived in 1487 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:27,420 Hayden and he was one of the trustees at 1488 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:29,250 the Eagles Lodge which kind of a 1489 00:56:31,940 --> 00:56:30,570 non-profit they do a lot of charitable 1490 00:56:34,070 --> 00:56:31,950 work in the community and that kind of 1491 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,080 thing and they had the perfect setup to 1492 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:35,760 be able to have a conference and so we 1493 00:56:42,350 --> 00:56:38,610 did it and it was a success that I think 1494 00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:42,360 was in 2012 and in this past July that 1495 00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:43,830 was the seventh conference that I've 1496 00:56:48,010 --> 00:56:46,470 helped organize the first couple it was 1497 00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:48,020 originally called the piggy momentum in 1498 00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:50,280 science and technology conference and 1499 00:56:53,810 --> 00:56:52,440 then after a few years we wanted to make 1500 00:56:54,980 --> 00:56:53,820 it a little bit more generic so then we 1501 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:54,990 called it the energy science and 1502 00:57:00,290 --> 00:56:58,170 technology conference and through those 1503 00:57:02,540 --> 00:57:00,300 seven conferences there's been about 1504 00:57:05,570 --> 00:57:02,550 nine different machines that were 1505 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:05,580 demonstrated to everybody which hadn't 1506 00:57:11,330 --> 00:57:09,330 over 1.0 COP which if you look at nine 1507 00:57:13,850 --> 00:57:11,340 different machines producing so-called 1508 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:13,860 over unity more work is being done than 1509 00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:16,110 what the operator puts in that's more 1510 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:18,060 than all other conferences in this 1511 00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,450 category combined that I know of well 1512 00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:23,280 that's quite impressive man I mean nine 1513 00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:25,860 machines and I understand that you can 1514 00:57:30,830 --> 00:57:27,980 make something that isn't necessarily 1515 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:30,840 ready for a mass production or 1516 00:57:36,140 --> 00:57:33,810 commercial rollout but with nine you got 1517 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:36,150 to think maybe a couple would be ready 1518 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:38,130 what is the holdup when these things 1519 00:57:42,770 --> 00:57:40,770 have been made since the 80s I mean 1520 00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:42,780 obviously they're going up against the 1521 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:45,420 powers that be and all that but why 1522 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:47,610 can't with a Kickstarter or something 1523 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:49,530 why can't we get this stuff out to 1524 00:57:53,740 --> 00:57:51,450 people so they can see that it works 1525 00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:53,750 despite their conventional knowledge 1526 00:57:58,010 --> 00:57:56,670 well a lot of it on upscaling 1527 00:58:01,100 --> 00:57:58,020 some of these things are not going to be 1528 00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:01,110 very practical for example you know the 1529 00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:02,750 Bedini SG it works 1530 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:05,430 SG stands for a schoolgirl motor which 1531 00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:07,530 little ten-year-old girl at a science 1532 00:58:12,380 --> 00:58:10,320 fair back around 1999 built a little 1533 00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:12,390 bitty knee energizer and it kept itself 1534 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:14,070 charged up throughout the science fair 1535 00:58:18,310 --> 00:58:16,130 and she won the grand prize 1536 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,320 and he called it the schoolgirl motor to 1537 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:21,200 poke fun at people you know seasoned 1538 00:58:24,610 --> 00:58:22,490 engineers who couldn't even get it to 1539 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:24,620 work and so that's where the SG name 1540 00:58:30,190 --> 00:58:28,490 comes from scaling it up they can be 1541 00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,200 over unity when you include the 1542 00:58:33,610 --> 00:58:32,000 mechanical work of the wheel turning if 1543 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:33,620 you put a load on it and you calculate 1544 00:58:37,870 --> 00:58:35,210 what winds up in the output batteries 1545 00:58:39,370 --> 00:58:37,880 it's over a hundred percent the thing is 1546 00:58:41,110 --> 00:58:39,380 is if you really want to scale it up to 1547 00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:41,120 power your whole house for example on a 1548 00:58:45,010 --> 00:58:43,070 large battery bank to have two battery 1549 00:58:46,660 --> 00:58:45,020 banks where one is powering the SG and 1550 00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:46,670 some other stuff while the second 1551 00:58:50,650 --> 00:58:48,500 battery bank gets charged up and when 1552 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:50,660 one goes down and the other is charged 1553 00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:53,210 you swap the banks well if you look at 1554 00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:55,160 the time money and effort that it takes 1555 00:59:01,900 --> 00:58:58,730 to buy all those battery banks and wind 1556 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:01,910 all those coils and do all that it makes 1557 00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:03,890 more financial sense to just go a solar 1558 00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:06,950 for example that doesn't mean it's a bad 1559 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:09,190 idea to go that route but there's other 1560 00:59:14,830 --> 00:59:11,810 so-called free energy technologies that 1561 00:59:16,690 --> 00:59:14,840 are more practical I believe for example 1562 00:59:19,570 --> 00:59:16,700 one of the most profound technologies 1563 00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:19,580 I've ever seen with the highest co P was 1564 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:21,950 one developed by Jim Murray Jim Murray 1565 00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:25,250 has been into these type of technologies 1566 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:26,870 for many many years he's one of the most 1567 00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:30,650 gifted brilliant genius engineers ever 1568 00:59:35,470 --> 00:59:32,960 in this field is one of the most 1569 00:59:38,170 --> 00:59:35,480 important engineers alive today and he 1570 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:38,180 has developed multiple mechanical and 1571 00:59:42,790 --> 00:59:41,210 electrical systems that produce more 1572 00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:42,800 work than what you have to put into it 1573 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:45,200 at one of the conferences he did a Coe 1574 00:59:49,330 --> 00:59:48,290 presentation with Paul Babcock one of my 1575 00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:49,340 good friends here in Spokane Washington 1576 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:53,270 and Jim and Paul met I think at the 2012 1577 00:59:56,890 --> 00:59:54,650 conference our first conference and 1578 00:59:58,660 --> 00:59:56,900 they've been friends ever since and one 1579 01:00:00,100 --> 00:59:58,670 of their each one of them had a 1580 01:00:03,220 --> 01:00:00,110 technology that was virtually identical 1581 01:00:05,260 --> 01:00:03,230 to each other in every single way and 1582 01:00:06,430 --> 01:00:05,270 when they found that out it blew their 1583 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:06,440 minds because they have been on this 1584 01:00:09,850 --> 01:00:08,690 parallel path for so many years and they 1585 01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:09,860 met at the conference to find out 1586 01:00:13,390 --> 01:00:11,660 they're working on the same thing well 1587 01:00:17,470 --> 01:00:13,400 one of Jim's technologies is called 1588 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:17,480 serves as CR PS switched energy 1589 01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:21,650 resonance power supply and they had one 1590 01:00:26,860 --> 01:00:22,880 model at the conference that they 1591 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:26,870 brought where the net loss on the input 1592 01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:30,410 was about one watt something and it was 1593 01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:33,230 lighting 50 watts of bulbs hmm that's 1594 01:00:40,090 --> 01:00:36,260 about a 5,000 percent increase or gain 1595 01:00:42,730 --> 01:00:40,100 it's a co P of almost 50 50 times more 1596 01:00:45,850 --> 01:00:42,740 work being produced than the net loss 1597 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:45,860 from the input now distinctions are 1598 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:47,090 always important because it really 1599 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:49,190 defines what's really going on and it's 1600 01:00:53,260 --> 01:00:50,930 not more than going out than going in 1601 01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:53,270 it's more work being done than what they 1602 01:00:59,050 --> 01:00:56,240 have to provide but another distinction 1603 01:01:01,210 --> 01:00:59,060 is is that it does not mean one watt is 1604 01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:01,220 lighting 50 watts of bulbs because 1605 01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:03,550 that's just not going to happen 1606 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:07,390 what it means is 50 watts is leaving the 1607 01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:10,210 power supply lighting 50 watts of 1608 01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:13,180 incandescent lightbulbs but the way the 1609 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:15,430 system works is that it's able to return 1610 01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:18,010 that 50 watts and with a little bit of 1611 01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:20,260 loss it might be maybe 49 watts is 1612 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:22,630 coming back in the opposite direction to 1613 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:25,450 light the bulbs at 49 watts for example 1614 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:28,510 and that's return to the source so the 1615 01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:30,430 net loss is going to be 1 watt so it's 1616 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:32,230 not one watt lighting 50 watts it's 50 1617 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:33,730 Watts lighting 50 watts of bulbs and 1618 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:36,130 it's lighting the bulbs that may be 49 1619 01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:39,130 Watts on the return so the net loss is 1 1620 01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:43,000 and what that means is that it only cost 1621 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:45,550 you 1 watt to light 50 watts of bulbs 1622 01:01:49,590 --> 01:01:47,890 now that was a solid-state unit you do 1623 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:49,600 plug it into the wall so it's hard for 1624 01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:51,850 people to believe ok well how do I know 1625 01:01:54,510 --> 01:01:52,960 what's really going on with the 1626 01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:54,520 circuitry how do I know it's really 1627 01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,670 doing that and it's not just a trick 1628 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,200 well you can obviously measure what's 1629 01:02:02,819 --> 01:02:01,119 leaving the wall with like a kilowatt 1630 01:02:04,460 --> 01:02:02,829 meter or anything like that and to see 1631 01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:04,470 that you know there's about one watt 1632 01:02:10,259 --> 01:02:07,119 being used well 50 watts of bulbs were 1633 01:02:11,970 --> 01:02:10,269 lit up well a non solid-state version of 1634 01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:11,980 that technology was done on a gas 1635 01:02:16,259 --> 01:02:14,950 generator set and you know this is one 1636 01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:16,269 of the most exciting technologies I've 1637 01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:18,430 ever seen because not only is it 1638 01:02:23,819 --> 01:02:22,089 practical it's something that's has a 1639 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:23,829 very very high coefficient of 1640 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:26,710 performance on a gas generator set let's 1641 01:02:31,259 --> 01:02:28,450 say you're using gasoline to power a 1642 01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:31,269 motor and this motor is turning a 1643 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:34,329 generator well if you put a load on that 1644 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:36,130 generator light bulbs whatever it 1645 01:02:39,550 --> 01:02:38,090 happens to be 1646 01:02:41,590 --> 01:02:39,560 the light bulbs are going to light up 1647 01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:41,600 the generator is producing electricity 1648 01:02:45,370 --> 01:02:43,700 but it's also going to bog the engine 1649 01:02:47,410 --> 01:02:45,380 down and it's going to force it to burn 1650 01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:47,420 more gas to keep up with that load and 1651 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:50,630 so that's a reaction generator which 1652 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:52,370 means it's going to bog down the prime 1653 01:02:56,490 --> 01:02:53,680 mover 1654 01:02:58,109 --> 01:02:56,500 well a typical gas generator set I don't 1655 01:03:00,569 --> 01:02:58,119 know to operating it may be about sixty 1656 01:03:02,730 --> 01:03:00,579 percent efficient so about 60 percent of 1657 01:03:06,299 --> 01:03:02,740 the gasoline you're burning is actually 1658 01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:06,309 going to producing the work well what's 1659 01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:08,049 interesting is that the way that this 1660 01:03:14,730 --> 01:03:11,440 system works is as the generator has 1661 01:03:16,769 --> 01:03:14,740 this alternating current output it's got 1662 01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:16,779 voltage going up and it's going down to 1663 01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,460 zero and then it's going negative and 1664 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:20,559 it's coming back up to zero then it's 1665 01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:22,930 going positive and so forth and this is 1666 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:25,420 what a typical alternating current AC 1667 01:03:33,779 --> 01:03:29,910 sine wave looks like well as the output 1668 01:03:36,329 --> 01:03:33,789 ramps up to positive the electricity is 1669 01:03:39,569 --> 01:03:36,339 going to light the bulbs and what 1670 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:39,579 happens is there's capacitors capturing 1671 01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:41,410 most of what's moving through this 1672 01:03:48,029 --> 01:03:44,799 system on the backside but as the 1673 01:03:50,370 --> 01:03:48,039 voltage starts to drop that capacitor 1674 01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:50,380 the capacitors are discharged backwards 1675 01:03:55,319 --> 01:03:53,260 through light bulbs and it's done in a 1676 01:03:58,349 --> 01:03:55,329 novel way where that voltage is stepped 1677 01:04:00,599 --> 01:03:58,359 up and is at a higher voltage than what 1678 01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:00,609 left the generator and when the higher 1679 01:04:05,819 --> 01:04:03,670 voltage is put back to the generator as 1680 01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:05,829 the voltage is following it actually 1681 01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:08,140 turns that generator into a motor for 1682 01:04:13,529 --> 01:04:10,960 just that one quarter cycle of that AC 1683 01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:13,539 wave and what that means is if you're 1684 01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:15,880 able to turn that generator into a motor 1685 01:04:21,089 --> 01:04:18,880 for just that moment you just negated 1686 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:21,099 the network that that generator is 1687 01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:23,890 loaded up by because that means half the 1688 01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:25,720 time it's a generator and half the time 1689 01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:28,480 it's a motor and what that does is if 1690 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:30,609 50% of the time the generator is 1691 01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:33,010 generating and 50% of the time the 1692 01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:34,510 generator is actually turning into a 1693 01:04:40,529 --> 01:04:36,940 motor the moment that it turns into the 1694 01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:40,539 motor it unloads the motor turning it 1695 01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:43,119 which means that that motor is going to 1696 01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:45,569 see almost no net work being done 1697 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:48,190 because if the generator is a motor at 1698 01:04:52,829 --> 01:04:51,130 that moment the motor turning it doesn't 1699 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:52,839 have to do any work to turn that 1700 01:04:58,049 --> 01:04:55,450 generator and so what it does is it 1701 01:05:00,450 --> 01:04:58,059 causes a net effect that there's really 1702 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:00,460 no load on that generator so the motor 1703 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:01,930 is just sitting there turning the 1704 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:04,809 generator and it's idling one of the 1705 01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:07,330 tests that Paul Babcock did is shop with 1706 01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:09,700 that system was on an old gas generator 1707 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:11,380 set you can't use these kind of crappy 1708 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:13,510 newer generators these days that you can 1709 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:15,010 buy it you know Harbor Freight or 1710 01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:16,930 wherever you have to use like one of 1711 01:05:20,730 --> 01:05:18,910 these old Onan generators or something 1712 01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:20,740 that's putting out a good clean sine 1713 01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:23,440 wave if people knew what kind of AC was 1714 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:24,760 coming out of these modern generators 1715 01:05:28,830 --> 01:05:27,250 it's going to be no surprise why it's 1716 01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:28,840 going to burn out refrigerators and 1717 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:30,190 computers and all this kind of stuff if 1718 01:05:33,690 --> 01:05:31,570 they use those kind of generators for 1719 01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:33,700 very long but on one of these older 1720 01:05:38,190 --> 01:05:35,920 generator sets it has a clean sine wave 1721 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:38,200 output they have the circuit running on 1722 01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:40,450 there and they had a graduated little 1723 01:05:43,890 --> 01:05:42,280 tube so they could measure exactly how 1724 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:43,900 much gasoline is going into that 1725 01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:46,240 generator well on the first test 1726 01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:49,060 they just measured how long would X 1727 01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:51,340 amount of gasoline idle that engine with 1728 01:05:55,830 --> 01:05:53,470 no load and so they took the measurement 1729 01:05:58,380 --> 01:05:55,840 of how long it would run that generator 1730 01:06:00,420 --> 01:05:58,390 at idle on that amount of gas then what 1731 01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:00,430 they did was they cooked up Jim's SERPs 1732 01:06:05,610 --> 01:06:03,310 circuit to it and with the exact same 1733 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:05,620 amount of gas they turn on the generator 1734 01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:07,930 and they live 1,500 watts worth of 1735 01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:11,230 incandescent light bulbs as it lit those 1736 01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:14,020 1,500 watts of incandescent light bulbs 1737 01:06:19,050 --> 01:06:15,910 you can hear the generator fidgeting a 1738 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:19,060 little bit then it smooths out and 1,500 1739 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:21,370 watts of light bulbs are being lit and a 1740 01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:24,130 generator goes back to idle it's idling 1741 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:25,540 and it doesn't even know that you're 1742 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:27,910 loading it that it was one of the most 1743 01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:29,770 profound technologies that I've ever 1744 01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:33,630 seen or heard of and it's for real and 1745 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:37,840 at one of my conferences Jim did get 1746 01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:39,730 introduced to somebody who was kind 1747 01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:42,700 enough to help financially support the 1748 01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:46,240 project Jim has since been funded and is 1749 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:47,980 currently working on that right now and 1750 01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:51,670 so to me that's the number one top 1751 01:06:56,070 --> 01:06:54,310 contender for a practical so-called free 1752 01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:56,080 energy system that can actually do 1753 01:07:01,230 --> 01:06:58,210 practical work at a large scale I mean 1754 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:01,240 1500 watts of bulbs and the generators 1755 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:05,050 idling is profound beyond belief the one 1756 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:07,090 thing about it is it works on resistive 1757 01:07:12,090 --> 01:07:09,730 loads like a heating element producing 1758 01:07:12,450 --> 01:07:12,100 heat or lighting it incandescent light 1759 01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:12,460 bulb 1760 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:16,840 90 percent is turning into heat while 1761 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:19,930 maybe 10% is light but the point is is 1762 01:07:23,810 --> 01:07:21,210 that it works on the resistive 1763 01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:23,820 loads I don't know if he has figured out 1764 01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:26,310 how to power inductive loads which means 1765 01:07:30,290 --> 01:07:27,780 like a compressor and a refrigerator 1766 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:30,300 which has a little motor in it anything 1767 01:07:33,050 --> 01:07:31,650 with electromagnetic coil that you're 1768 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:33,060 powering is called an inductive load 1769 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:35,370 while like a heating element is a 1770 01:07:39,260 --> 01:07:37,530 resistive load so it does work on 1771 01:07:41,570 --> 01:07:39,270 resistive loads I don't know that it can 1772 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:41,580 work on inductive loads but any case 1773 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:44,490 lighting 1500 watts of bulbs running at 1774 01:07:49,220 --> 01:07:47,130 idle is I mean that's game-changing 1775 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:49,230 beyond belief and it's for real and 1776 01:07:53,870 --> 01:07:52,250 that's one of about 8 different 1777 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:53,880 technologies that have been demonstrated 1778 01:07:58,340 --> 01:07:56,010 at this conference the energy Science 1779 01:08:00,200 --> 01:07:58,350 and Technology conference right on well 1780 01:08:01,610 --> 01:08:00,210 that's a really great detailed 1781 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:01,620 description and of course there are 1782 01:08:06,380 --> 01:08:03,570 parts that are a little over my head I 1783 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:06,390 am a simple stoner host of a podcast but 1784 01:08:11,630 --> 01:08:09,690 I know it is that time that I always get 1785 01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:11,640 it's a little bittersweet when something 1786 01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:13,380 really lights a fire under me right at 1787 01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:15,990 the time that we are supposed to close 1788 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:18,450 out but that's the way it goes maybe we 1789 01:08:20,450 --> 01:08:20,130 can do this again sometime yeah we'd 1790 01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:20,460 love to 1791 01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:23,040 that's awesome to hear and so one thing 1792 01:08:28,190 --> 01:08:25,620 we did want to touch on before we ended 1793 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:28,200 this thing is for people who remember my 1794 01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:30,210 interview with Eric Dollard that was 1795 01:08:34,970 --> 01:08:33,000 really you who helped coordinate that 1796 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:34,980 interview with him and that episode 1797 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:36,690 stands out as one of my favorite shows 1798 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:38,850 I've been able to do for this type of 1799 01:08:45,230 --> 01:08:42,960 thing I know Eric has had a sort of 1800 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:45,240 rocky life and you're pretty close with 1801 01:08:49,460 --> 01:08:47,850 them how is he doing is his work coming 1802 01:08:51,170 --> 01:08:49,470 along is there some update you could 1803 01:08:53,810 --> 01:08:51,180 give the people who've probably wondered 1804 01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:53,820 what's the deal with Eric yeah he's 1805 01:08:56,690 --> 01:08:55,110 doing better I don't know if you know a 1806 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:56,700 couple years ago he did come in with 1807 01:09:01,340 --> 01:08:57,930 non-hodgkins lymphoma 1808 01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:01,350 so that's straightened out he's taken 1809 01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:02,880 some supplements keeping his platelet 1810 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:05,040 counts up and that kind of thing so 1811 01:09:10,220 --> 01:09:08,010 health-wise he's doing pretty good had 1812 01:09:12,830 --> 01:09:10,230 some dietary changes and stuff as far as 1813 01:09:15,410 --> 01:09:12,840 to work with a non-profit one good thing 1814 01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:15,420 is the balance to pay off the building 1815 01:09:19,850 --> 01:09:17,910 which I've helped to raise some funds 1816 01:09:21,230 --> 01:09:19,860 over the last several years and pay off 1817 01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:21,240 this building where he does a lot of the 1818 01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,120 work at the balance is like 1,100 bucks 1819 01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:26,480 or something like that so I expect and 1820 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:28,980 about one month for that to be paid off 1821 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:31,290 which is a huge huge step for EPD 1822 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:33,090 Laboratories Inc you know which is a 501 1823 01:09:36,980 --> 01:09:34,770 C 3 non-profit 1824 01:09:39,019 --> 01:09:36,990 organization to further the electrical 1825 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:39,029 sciences and of course Eric is the man 1826 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:41,370 behind that so buildings about get paid 1827 01:09:44,900 --> 01:09:42,810 off he's been doing a lot of writing 1828 01:09:46,579 --> 01:09:44,910 we're going to be publishing a lot more 1829 01:09:49,579 --> 01:09:46,589 of this not only as ebooks but also in 1830 01:09:52,490 --> 01:09:49,589 Amazon as paperbacks and as far as the 1831 01:09:54,530 --> 01:09:52,500 seismic project itself there's a shack 1832 01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:54,540 up on top of the hill at the end of all 1833 01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:56,550 these long distance lines for the 1834 01:10:01,640 --> 01:09:59,010 earthquake forecasting equipment that's 1835 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:01,650 been put together and I recently met 1836 01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:04,080 somebody who is interested in getting 1837 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:06,510 all the quotes to make this little 1838 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:07,770 building on the outside of this mine 1839 01:10:13,660 --> 01:10:11,490 there's a mine on this property that we 1840 01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,670 have the right-of-way to that actually 1841 01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:15,360 synchronistically it just happened to 1842 01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:18,060 have three seismographs on an XYZ axis 1843 01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:21,120 and it had no idea that was even there 1844 01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:22,710 when Eric picked this location because 1845 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:24,750 of these lines that were on there to 1846 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:26,610 pick up these earth signals just happens 1847 01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:28,650 to be a mine with seismographs that a 1848 01:10:33,530 --> 01:10:30,750 certain University rid off as being 1849 01:10:36,050 --> 01:10:33,540 obsolete and the whole thing got passed 1850 01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:36,060 over to EPD labs I mean that's crazy 1851 01:10:38,540 --> 01:10:37,320 synchronicity who would have thought 1852 01:10:40,130 --> 01:10:38,550 that could have ever happened and it 1853 01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:40,140 just happens to be in the exact place 1854 01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:42,420 that they need to be in proximity to 1855 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:44,910 their lines and so he's doing a lot of 1856 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:47,730 writing right now we're in a process of 1857 01:10:52,940 --> 01:10:48,810 getting somebody who can get the quotes 1858 01:10:55,370 --> 01:10:52,950 for the lines and this building that 1859 01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:55,380 will encase the front of the mind with 1860 01:10:58,940 --> 01:10:57,000 the seismographs because all that data 1861 01:10:59,930 --> 01:10:58,950 has to come in - for lack of better term 1862 01:11:01,340 --> 01:10:59,940 I guess you could say kind of like a 1863 01:11:03,770 --> 01:11:01,350 switchboard kind of thing which will 1864 01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:03,780 route all these signals to the shop and 1865 01:11:09,260 --> 01:11:06,360 the goal is to actually put that online 1866 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:09,270 somehow so people can in lifetime watch 1867 01:11:13,370 --> 01:11:11,850 this earth signal data over like a 1868 01:11:16,670 --> 01:11:13,380 smartphone app or something like that 1869 01:11:18,890 --> 01:11:16,680 but that's kind of what the goal is he 1870 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:18,900 just gave a presentation at the recent 1871 01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:21,690 conference which anybody interested in 1872 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:22,860 that they can go to energy science 1873 01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:25,650 conference calm and hopefully here in a 1874 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:26,940 couple months we'll start to post the 1875 01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:28,770 details on next year's conference but he 1876 01:11:32,210 --> 01:11:30,840 gave a conference on the history theory 1877 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:32,220 and practice of the electrical utility 1878 01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:35,250 system but the big thing that you might 1879 01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:37,260 be interested in interviewing him on is 1880 01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:39,480 that it was about kind of leads up to 1881 01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:42,960 showing how the grid has apparently been 1882 01:11:48,419 --> 01:11:46,140 intentionally degenerated because at one 1883 01:11:50,429 --> 01:11:48,429 time the grid was EMP 1884 01:11:52,169 --> 01:11:50,439 as it was built according to like Bell 1885 01:11:54,179 --> 01:11:52,179 Labs type standards and this kind of 1886 01:11:55,979 --> 01:11:54,189 stuff well it's actually been 1887 01:12:00,299 --> 01:11:55,989 degenerated in a way to where it's 1888 01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:00,309 actually turned into a huge antenna that 1889 01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:03,550 will cause any damage by an EMP to be 1890 01:12:08,669 --> 01:12:06,550 amplified exponentially to deliver it 1891 01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:08,679 right into everybody's homes and this is 1892 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,630 something that's a serious concern he 1893 01:12:14,069 --> 01:12:12,400 lays the whole thing out and more people 1894 01:12:16,529 --> 01:12:14,079 need to know about that that's what his 1895 01:12:18,299 --> 01:12:16,539 most recent presentation was about which 1896 01:12:19,890 --> 01:12:18,309 is about a five-hour presentation by the 1897 01:12:22,009 --> 01:12:19,900 way and I'd be happy to send you links 1898 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:22,019 so you could look at that if you like 1899 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:24,489 absolutely but that's been his most 1900 01:12:30,839 --> 01:12:28,510 recent focus Wow and man so right on 1901 01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:30,849 well before we really call it in here 1902 01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:34,030 also please inform the good people about 1903 01:12:38,459 --> 01:12:36,249 your websites again and how to better 1904 01:12:40,529 --> 01:12:38,469 educate themselves after this kind of 1905 01:12:43,709 --> 01:12:40,539 cliff notes crash course that we came 1906 01:12:45,149 --> 01:12:43,719 today sure so the publishing website as 1907 01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:45,159 you mentioned at the beginning of the 1908 01:12:49,969 --> 01:12:47,289 call about 40 books and videos I think 1909 01:12:53,129 --> 01:12:49,979 there's actually maybe about 60 or 70 1910 01:12:55,399 --> 01:12:53,139 ebooks and downloadable videos most of 1911 01:13:00,410 --> 01:12:55,409 our presentations from the conference 1912 01:13:03,359 --> 01:13:00,420 that website is e-media press.com 1913 01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:03,369 if anybody is interested in the energy 1914 01:13:09,899 --> 01:13:05,289 conference energy Science and Technology 1915 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:09,909 Conference its energy science conference 1916 01:13:14,969 --> 01:13:13,449 calm and on immediate press calm there's 1917 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:14,979 links to all the rest of it you know 1918 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:17,530 there's a manufacturing pretty much one 1919 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:20,050 of the only real rife machines that was 1920 01:13:23,429 --> 01:13:22,090 developed by John the guinea and a few 1921 01:13:25,469 --> 01:13:23,439 other things so there's links told that 1922 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:25,479 the synchronicity report is on immediate 1923 01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:27,489 press comm and if you go through the 1924 01:13:30,299 --> 01:13:29,289 blog that's where you can see where all 1925 01:13:31,770 --> 01:13:30,309 the different releases from the 1926 01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:31,780 conference a bunch of other pretty 1927 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:34,900 interesting stuff and so you know it's 1928 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:36,249 been an honor and a privilege to be able 1929 01:13:40,979 --> 01:13:38,650 to work with people like Roger sd's John 1930 01:13:43,799 --> 01:13:40,989 beginning Peter Lindemann Eric Dollard 1931 01:13:46,290 --> 01:13:43,809 Paul Babcock Jim Murray you know who I 1932 01:13:48,449 --> 01:13:46,300 consider and many people consider the 1933 01:13:49,949 --> 01:13:48,459 pioneers of the modern day so-called 1934 01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:49,959 free energy and Tesla science movement 1935 01:13:55,109 --> 01:13:52,900 and the proven winners over many many 1936 01:13:56,429 --> 01:13:55,119 years and that's why I'd like to have 1937 01:13:57,629 --> 01:13:56,439 very close relationships with these 1938 01:13:59,219 --> 01:13:57,639 people because their work is very 1939 01:14:00,929 --> 01:13:59,229 profound I want to do everything I can 1940 01:14:02,370 --> 01:14:00,939 to support it I appreciate you having me 1941 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:02,380 on your show too 1942 01:14:06,810 --> 01:14:04,210 the awareness of the work much 1943 01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:06,820 appreciated heck yeah man you are 1944 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:09,550 definitely an interesting cat and so the 1945 01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:11,170 next conference it's not until next 1946 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:14,080 summer and it's in Idaho as well yeah 1947 01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:15,310 here in a couple weeks I'll have the 1948 01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:17,230 exact date most likely it will be in one 1949 01:14:22,379 --> 01:14:20,260 of the weekends in July of next year it 1950 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:22,389 will be at the table eagle's lodge and 1951 01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:25,090 Hayden Idaho which is about maybe a 55 1952 01:14:29,370 --> 01:14:26,230 minute drive from the Spokane 1953 01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:29,380 International Airport and this year 1954 01:14:32,340 --> 01:14:31,030 differed from other years where other 1955 01:14:34,379 --> 01:14:32,350 years it was a Friday Saturday and 1956 01:14:36,629 --> 01:14:34,389 Sunday which mostly focused on the 1957 01:14:38,459 --> 01:14:36,639 energy technologies and science this 1958 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:38,469 year I added the Thursday so it's 1959 01:14:43,530 --> 01:14:40,690 Thursday through Sunday Thursday all 1960 01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:43,540 focused on mind body science and Friday 1961 01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:45,510 Saturday and Sunday was the typical 1962 01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:48,280 energy conference and next year I'm 1963 01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:49,540 looking at maybe having a five-day 1964 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:52,719 conference where Thursday will be mind 1965 01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:54,610 body Friday Saturday and Sunday will be 1966 01:14:58,830 --> 01:14:56,320 the main energy conference and then 1967 01:15:00,990 --> 01:14:58,840 Monday will be optional for anybody who 1968 01:15:02,610 --> 01:15:01,000 wants to stick around which will be 1969 01:15:04,649 --> 01:15:02,620 focused on business because a lot of 1970 01:15:06,209 --> 01:15:04,659 people who have inventions and stuff do 1971 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:06,219 not really have the wherewithal to know 1972 01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:07,690 how to raise funds how to get into 1973 01:15:12,530 --> 01:15:09,550 manufacturing and do prototypes and 1974 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:12,540 outsource that stuff and you know really 1975 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:15,330 bring their own projects to fruition and 1976 01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:18,130 I know a lot of people in the right 1977 01:15:22,379 --> 01:15:20,830 places who can help with that element of 1978 01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:22,389 this which is missing in this field 1979 01:15:27,330 --> 01:15:24,670 because most people have invention they 1980 01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:27,340 have no idea what to do and so we you 1981 01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:28,630 know we'd like to change that so people 1982 01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,190 can be you know more self-sufficient 1983 01:15:33,419 --> 01:15:31,600 actually get their stuff out into 1984 01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:33,429 people's hands which is one of the big 1985 01:15:39,390 --> 01:15:35,590 movements that I've been gearing towards 1986 01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:39,400 in the last year is that I'm with Eric 1987 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:41,020 Dollard and a couple of the partners 1988 01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,810 were going to be manufacturing the lock 1989 01:15:47,129 --> 01:15:45,520 offski multi wave oscillator which 1990 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:47,139 there's a link on that on immediate 1991 01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:48,370 press.com for anybody who's interested 1992 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:51,790 but my goal by the next six months is 1993 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:53,350 that I'll have another I don't know 1994 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:55,270 maybe four or five devices into 1995 01:15:59,310 --> 01:15:57,730 production because I want people to 1996 01:16:00,270 --> 01:15:59,320 actually get into their hands a lot of 1997 01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:00,280 the things that we've been talking about 1998 01:16:03,959 --> 01:16:02,380 for many years and so that's where a lot 1999 01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:03,969 of my focus is shifting is into the 2000 01:16:07,260 --> 01:16:05,320 manufacturing and actually getting these 2001 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:07,270 things out there excellent I think 2002 01:16:11,459 --> 01:16:09,670 that's exactly the right focus I mean 2003 01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:11,469 that's been my frustration is where is 2004 01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:14,680 all this stuff but very exciting 2005 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:16,750 man again thanks for furthering my 2006 01:16:19,980 --> 01:16:18,130 understanding it's been real 2007 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:19,990 enlightening getting into your work and 2008 01:16:23,940 --> 01:16:21,370 talking to you today I know there's so 2009 01:16:26,820 --> 01:16:23,950 much other stuff going on to talk about 2010 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:26,830 water time deconstructing three 2011 01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:29,770 dimensions inertia plasma ignition but 2012 01:16:35,310 --> 01:16:32,710 we had a full full show for next time I 2013 01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:35,320 guess but thanks again I wish you 2014 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:37,750 continued success and enjoy the day man 2015 01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:39,610 hey thank you very much but thanks for 2016 01:16:42,540 --> 01:16:40,960 having me on your show and I look 2017 01:16:44,730 --> 01:16:42,550 forward to doing it again sometime 2018 01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:44,740 for sure all right man take care take 2019 01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:47,860 care thank you so much you got it holy 2020 01:16:54,990 --> 01:16:51,630 Helen hallelujah people Aaron Murakami 2021 01:16:57,570 --> 01:16:55,000 remember the name top-notch guest I 2022 01:16:59,280 --> 01:16:57,580 would say honestly this was exactly the 2023 01:17:01,830 --> 01:16:59,290 kind of show I was looking for way 2024 01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:01,840 closer to the source of the information 2025 01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:04,540 I think he did a great job breaking down 2026 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:08,350 ether physics 101 obviously you have to 2027 01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:12,250 undo some learning torch up some sacred 2028 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:15,520 cow house and reframe and redefine a lot 2029 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:18,370 of terms and concepts I don't really 2030 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:21,010 know much about energy or conventional 2031 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:23,410 batteries or many of the things that we 2032 01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:24,970 talked about so I almost have an 2033 01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:27,700 advantage by being such a blank slate 2034 01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:29,710 now at least that's what I tell myself 2035 01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:33,100 but how perfect was Aaron for this 2036 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,110 because the conference scene is 2037 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:37,120 something I really wanted to hear about 2038 01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:39,550 and I will probably attend this 2039 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:42,400 conference next year why not I've gone 2040 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:44,770 to conspiracy cons where speakers just 2041 01:17:49,470 --> 01:17:47,410 talk about the idea of this stuff 2042 01:17:52,350 --> 01:17:49,480 existing and being suppressed or they 2043 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:52,360 throw it way back in the past well let's 2044 01:17:56,970 --> 01:17:54,010 go to where the engineers are where the 2045 01:17:58,440 --> 01:17:56,980 models are if I ever have a higher side 2046 01:18:00,300 --> 01:17:58,450 con this would be a pond 2047 01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:00,310 I would fish in for sure I'll tell you 2048 01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:03,790 that but it's similar to the lesson I 2049 01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:06,070 learned with the forming of a few of the 2050 01:18:10,650 --> 01:18:08,470 ETH C communities you know it sounds fun 2051 01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:10,660 but this show is kind of just an 2052 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:13,060 experience between you and I and the 2053 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:15,610 guests and when we all congregate 2054 01:18:20,610 --> 01:18:19,090 somewhere that's where things can get a 2055 01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,620 little messy that's where we can be 2056 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:22,960 targeted and you know not even for 2057 01:18:28,020 --> 01:18:25,810 anything dramatic but just marketed to 2058 01:18:29,310 --> 01:18:28,030 even as a demographic 2059 01:18:31,729 --> 01:18:29,320 I don't like that but if we're all 2060 01:18:35,069 --> 01:18:31,739 having this experience in isolation in 2061 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:35,079 silent lucidity as that paced band used 2062 01:18:40,649 --> 01:18:38,050 to say we're decentralized and that has 2063 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:40,659 a lot of advantages same with these 2064 01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:43,090 conferences it's a bigger risk just to 2065 01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:46,239 get together and dedicate a weekend of 2066 01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:48,280 this stuff getting all the leaders and 2067 01:18:52,979 --> 01:18:50,710 best thinkers in one room it's like 2068 01:18:55,649 --> 01:18:52,989 anything you don't even have to go 2069 01:18:57,629 --> 01:18:55,659 full-blown capstone cabal on this one 2070 01:19:00,060 --> 01:18:57,639 you think GE or any of the big energy 2071 01:19:01,919 --> 01:19:00,070 companies can't contract out someone to 2072 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:01,929 make this problem go away when it starts 2073 01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:04,570 gaining steam I've seen walkthrough 2074 01:19:09,799 --> 01:19:07,329 videos of the dark web where they have 2075 01:19:12,990 --> 01:19:09,809 assassins for hire for 50 K 2076 01:19:15,959 --> 01:19:13,000 I'm only saying we've heard the stories 2077 01:19:18,089 --> 01:19:15,969 and I find this kind of thing to be more 2078 01:19:20,250 --> 01:19:18,099 dangerous than a lot of topics because 2079 01:19:22,319 --> 01:19:20,260 it hits them right in the pocketbook yes 2080 01:19:24,089 --> 01:19:22,329 money is a construct and enchantment on 2081 01:19:27,390 --> 01:19:24,099 the masses it has no value and it's one 2082 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:27,400 big reptilian energy suck but on another 2083 01:19:33,450 --> 01:19:30,489 level money matters and it's not just 2084 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:33,460 money but control matters and there is 2085 01:19:38,729 --> 01:19:36,489 an ironclad quarantine around this stuff 2086 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:38,739 because they don't want us casting off 2087 01:19:42,810 --> 01:19:39,610 those yokes 2088 01:19:45,180 --> 01:19:42,820 there was goddamn energy yokes but have 2089 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:45,190 you noticed a theme to the shows this 2090 01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:45,730 month 2091 01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:48,159 Corey Daniel Jim Chester Erin Murakami 2092 01:19:54,419 --> 01:19:51,360 it's all about let's pause on the 2093 01:19:57,060 --> 01:19:54,429 theorizing and the speculating what is 2094 01:19:59,220 --> 01:19:57,070 out there what does a local expert have 2095 01:20:01,470 --> 01:19:59,230 to say about the Arizona desert what is 2096 01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:01,480 this stuff on these radar scans and 2097 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:03,940 Helsinki where are these devices we've 2098 01:20:08,970 --> 01:20:05,770 heard about how are they possible who's 2099 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:08,980 making them I'm trying to go for it you 2100 01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:11,770 know because sometimes I think we get 2101 01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:15,340 caught up in a did you know educational 2102 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:17,289 circle-jerk and we're doing a lot of 2103 01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:20,920 talking which go figure an interview 2104 01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:22,630 based podcast has given you a lot of 2105 01:20:27,060 --> 01:20:25,150 talk but I'm just saying I'm trying to 2106 01:20:29,850 --> 01:20:27,070 push up closer to some type of 2107 01:20:32,580 --> 01:20:29,860 breakthrough to something somewhere I'm 2108 01:20:35,310 --> 01:20:32,590 just feeling around in the dark it's a 2109 01:20:36,660 --> 01:20:35,320 lofty goal yeah and we'll probably be 2110 01:20:38,609 --> 01:20:36,670 back to talking about underground 2111 01:20:41,879 --> 01:20:38,619 cloning centers in black goo before you 2112 01:20:43,529 --> 01:20:41,889 know it I tend to change direction a lot 2113 01:20:46,379 --> 01:20:43,539 you never know when a 180 is coming I'm 2114 01:20:49,169 --> 01:20:46,389 the John Kerry of conspiracy podcasting 2115 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:49,179 the cool John Kerry a conspiracy podcast 2116 01:20:52,979 --> 01:20:50,800 and I like to think that that's even 2117 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:52,989 possible look we've been doing this a 2118 01:20:55,859 --> 01:20:53,530 long time 2119 01:20:58,649 --> 01:20:55,869 and I know that I say a lot of dumb 2120 01:21:00,600 --> 01:20:58,659 things but as long as I say fewer dumb 2121 01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:00,610 things than my competitors then I guess 2122 01:21:06,299 --> 01:21:03,340 I'm all right but the point is that you 2123 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:06,309 got a lot of information today some of 2124 01:21:11,580 --> 01:21:09,130 it over my head is kind of new you know 2125 01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,590 that's gonna happen I think we can all 2126 01:21:16,409 --> 01:21:13,360 agree that it's interesting food for 2127 01:21:18,839 --> 01:21:16,419 thought and we are better for knowing a 2128 01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:18,849 little bit more about this subject but 2129 01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,380 for some people it's gonna be more than 2130 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:22,719 that some people are actually gonna buy 2131 01:21:26,759 --> 01:21:25,090 Aaron's book and presentation or they're 2132 01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,769 gonna go and look up some of these names 2133 01:21:30,569 --> 01:21:28,239 that we dropped some of these 2134 01:21:33,089 --> 01:21:30,579 breadcrumbs and something's gonna light 2135 01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:33,099 a fire for some people and they're gonna 2136 01:21:38,639 --> 01:21:36,070 push this further and I hope there is 2137 01:21:40,469 --> 01:21:38,649 one THC that does that for everyone nine 2138 01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:40,479 out of ten shows you might just say wow 2139 01:21:44,459 --> 01:21:42,550 that's really fascinating but I gotta 2140 01:21:46,889 --> 01:21:44,469 get this TPS report done before I lose 2141 01:21:49,859 --> 01:21:46,899 my job it's a part of life but I hope 2142 01:21:51,929 --> 01:21:49,869 that some of these shows will resonate 2143 01:21:53,790 --> 01:21:51,939 with you so much that it does provide a 2144 01:21:56,580 --> 01:21:53,800 catalyst for moving the needle forward 2145 01:21:57,859 --> 01:21:56,590 or putting some yardage on the board or 2146 01:22:00,600 --> 01:21:57,869 whatever they do in hockey 2147 01:22:02,489 --> 01:22:00,610 maybe something jumps out at you because 2148 01:22:05,459 --> 01:22:02,499 it's local and you can actually go take 2149 01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,469 a look and go down a personal rabbit 2150 01:22:09,959 --> 01:22:07,840 hole I'm just saying I've had some 2151 01:22:13,279 --> 01:22:09,969 whiskey's and I'm ready to change the 2152 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:13,289 world guys who's coming with me 2153 01:22:17,879 --> 01:22:16,570 if you only heard the first hour I don't 2154 01:22:19,649 --> 01:22:17,889 know what you're doing sign up for the 2155 01:22:22,259 --> 01:22:19,659 higher side shots plus because the full 2156 01:22:25,109 --> 01:22:22,269 shows are always better nobody's doing 2157 01:22:28,290 --> 01:22:25,119 what I'm doing instead of a massive bag 2158 01:22:30,569 --> 01:22:28,300 of fun sighs Snickers get a month of THC 2159 01:22:33,089 --> 01:22:30,579 plus it looks much better on your 2160 01:22:36,029 --> 01:22:33,099 waistline but in the extra time I had 2161 01:22:39,839 --> 01:22:36,039 with Aaron we talked about extra luminol 2162 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:39,849 travel how this could apply to crafts we 2163 01:22:45,149 --> 01:22:42,489 talked even about Aaron's UFO sightings 2164 01:22:48,750 --> 01:22:45,159 that he's actually had we talked about 2165 01:22:51,060 --> 01:22:48,760 ether and g-forces you can probably 2166 01:22:53,699 --> 01:22:51,070 already conceive of what that means 2167 01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,709 because we just talked about similar 2168 01:22:57,620 --> 01:22:54,960 things like gravity 2169 01:23:00,850 --> 01:22:57,630 inertia really we explain those things 2170 01:23:03,260 --> 01:23:00,860 or redefine those things but another 2171 01:23:06,979 --> 01:23:03,270 topic we talked about in the plush show 2172 01:23:10,190 --> 01:23:06,989 was Qi Gong consciousness and healing 2173 01:23:12,410 --> 01:23:10,200 and that was a long story but it was 2174 01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:12,420 quite awesome a whole nother dimension 2175 01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,270 of Aaron's interests and experiences 2176 01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:18,239 that I really liked hearing about plus 2177 01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:21,000 when exceptional people pass on it's 2178 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:22,590 nice to tell their story to so many 2179 01:23:28,130 --> 01:23:25,050 listeners and through that they can 2180 01:23:29,380 --> 01:23:28,140 still influence the world and that's a 2181 01:23:32,450 --> 01:23:29,390 beautiful thing 2182 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:32,460 also tomorrow or should I just say 2183 01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:35,489 October 25th we are doing another joint 2184 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:38,000 session with you dear people me and you 2185 01:23:43,340 --> 01:23:40,890 call in with your stories your local 2186 01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:43,350 conspiracies your paranormal experiences 2187 01:23:49,070 --> 01:23:45,900 your inside scoops and I'm gonna be 2188 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:49,080 right here ready to hear it all 7:00 2189 01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:52,890 p.m. pacific 9 p.m. Central I'm really 2190 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:56,100 gonna try and quote go live on Facebook 2191 01:24:01,820 --> 01:23:58,170 and YouTube this time because there's 2192 01:24:04,250 --> 01:24:01,830 thousands of followers there and when 2193 01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:04,260 someone goes live it's always something 2194 01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:06,360 they throw to the front of my newsfeed I 2195 01:24:12,350 --> 01:24:08,280 think people would get the prompt and 2196 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:12,360 probably join in I know the program I'm 2197 01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:14,610 using zoom I know it's able to do that 2198 01:24:20,570 --> 01:24:18,420 so my mission for the afternoon is to 2199 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:20,580 get liquored up again and give it a go 2200 01:24:26,209 --> 01:24:23,370 figure that stuff out I'm being quite 2201 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:26,219 goofy but I am really proud of what 2202 01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:28,170 we've done here today 2203 01:24:31,700 --> 01:24:29,490 if this resonates with you please 2204 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:31,710 continue to explore these things that 2205 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:32,850 they just don't want us to know about 2206 01:24:37,730 --> 01:24:35,580 give Aaron a shout-out let him know you 2207 01:24:39,860 --> 01:24:37,740 salute his dedication given the digital 2208 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:39,870 high-five and I'm gonna be back very 2209 01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:43,170 soon I love you guys lots of people out 2210 01:24:48,290 --> 01:24:45,510 there are fishing for your outrage don't 2211 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:48,300 take the bait but anyway I've done my 2212 01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,010 part thanks for listening your move 2213 01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:52,080 secret science suppressors ether 2214 01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:57,870 coroner's and keepers of convention your 2215 01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:10,790 [Music] 2216 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:35,550 take it 2217 01:25:40,690 --> 01:25:38,570 in the bunker 2218 01:25:42,990 --> 01:25:40,700 [Music] 2219 01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:43,000 finally in the bunker 2220 01:25:52,110 --> 01:25:45,390 [Music] 2221 01:25:55,410 --> 01:25:52,120 banca yeah the last thing any classes 2222 01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:55,420 while the screaming on the masses who do 2223 01:26:02,820 --> 01:25:59,050 you think they are fancy singer than a 2224 01:26:05,420 --> 01:26:02,830 snake God tell you the basics they print 2225 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:05,430 your money got the thread in your head 2226 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:09,130 currency now the smiley entertains me 2227 01:26:26,649 --> 01:26:12,210 how this happened how you don't see 2228 01:26:26,659 --> 01:26:30,560 wait 2229 01:26:30,570 --> 01:26:35,229 [Music] 2230 01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:38,840 plans are simple the best protection of 2231 01:26:43,130 --> 01:26:41,340 all is the special shelter built 2232 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:43,140 according to specifications of your 2233 01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:46,010 local civil defense organization 2234 01:26:50,410 --> 01:26:48,110 the basement of any house or building 2235 01:26:52,630 --> 01:26:50,420 will become a good to improvise shelters 2236 01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:52,640 if you block the windows with the same 2237 01:27:01,090 --> 01:26:56,270 thing if you don't have sandbags just 2238 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:01,100 what can you do take it under you'll 2239 01:27:13,740 --> 01:27:03,210 find me in the bunker 2240 01:27:25,950 --> 01:27:21,930 [Music] 2241 01:27:26,210 --> 01:27:25,960 diligence